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Surely there's more to be said here? Also, photos could be arranged in a horizontal gallery (especially given lack of text). Deizio 14:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Made it in a gallery. Sorry, i created the stub primarily to place some of my photos. -- Chris 73 | Talk 15:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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plagiarism

significant portion is copied from here https://www.artwarefineart.com/gallery/lyon-cathedral-and-basilica-notre-dame-de-fourviere-river-saône Tannim101 (talk) 16:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting. Can you indicate which text is replicated? Do you think there's a chance the artware site might have copied the text from here, rather than vice-versa? Eric ^talk 19:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Waldo gargoyle

I came across this fascinating foto on another wiki page and would like to learn more about it. I thumbnailed it here for that reason-- crowdsourcing with the hope of learning more. This editor, above, Eric, objected. Eric, can you say what you don't like about it? If the info surrounding the photo is inaccurate, we should change that. 23:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewismr (talk • contribs) 23:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lewismr: Re "crowdsourcing": That is not what a Wikipedia article is for.

I did not state that I don't like the photo. Both it and the topic are interesting, but context is absent in the cathedral article. Your current caption--now improved in that it is in English and has a link on Waldo's name--nonetheless neither indicates that the gargoyle is on the cathedral (yes, it can be inferred), nor what its significance might be. As interesting as I might find the story, I still do not necessarily think that the photo has a place in the gallery, especially when the story is not mentioned in the article. Guidance note re signing talkpage posts: WP:SIG. Eric ^talk 00:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eric, thank you for bringing attention to this. I seem to recall WP guidelines about not being condescending...but enough. I suggest we grant each other good faith, as fellow seekers. Along those lines, if you are able to help me gather more info on this gargoyle, I'll be appreciative. Volume three (Tome Troisiéme) of the memoirs of http://fr.wiki.x.io/wiki/Jacques_du_Clercq (link: [1]https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=3Xw6AAAAcAAJ&pg=GBS.PP8) begin by describing a mass trial in the northern Burgundian town of Arras in 1460 in which the accused are referred to as Vauldois. The memoirs don't say so, but this term is supposed to derive from Pierre Valdo from Lyon, also under the Duke of Burgundy at that time. So the fascinating question: when was the gargoyle designed and added to the cathedral? Lewismr (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just did some searching, and did not come up with much. Via Google and DuckDuckGo, most hits are Wikimedia ones or else apparently copied from them. Here are a few things I found, starting first with a Google Books link to what I think is the du Clerq book I think you linked. You can search the book for text within it, and I found a couple instances of vaudois there:

This might call for a visit to the cathedral! Eric ^talk 21:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]