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Millbridge is not the geographical centre of Liversedge.
[edit]The geographical centre of Liversedge is on the A649 Halifax Road, going westward from the top of Knowler Hill towards Primrose Lane. The town hall (which later became a television shop) was situated at the top of Knowler Hill at its junction with Halifax Road. The Post Office and the Liversedge Hotel (opposite) were situated further west along Halifax Road. During World War II signs indicating Liversedge had to be removed so the Liversedge Hotel was renamed the Longsdale. From this moment on, Liversedge gradually lost its town centre and its identity. People became unsure of its exact location. Liversedge became part of Spenborough, so effectively it became a suburb of Cleckheaton while the Post Office on the other hand, changed the postal address to Liversedge, Heckmondwike. The good people of Liversedge protested strongly against this, so the postal address was changed back to Liversedge, Yorkshire (later Liversedge, West Yorkshire). Liversedge was later given a Wakefield post code however. The shopping centre of Liversedge was on Bradford Road, Littletown, near its junction with Knowler Hill and eastward towards Listing Lane. Littletown was a bottleneck on the road from Wakefield to Bradford so much of it was demolished in the 1960s to make way for a dual carriageway. However, the M62 was built shortly afterwards, so the destruction of Littletown was unnecessary. Many parts of Liversedge town centre were also demolished during the slum clearance of the 1960s. Apgeraint (talk) 05:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Etymology
[edit]I've removed the 'Robert de Liversec' claim as it wasn't reliably sourced and I can't find a reliable source for his existence. My Dictionary of English Place-Names by A D Mills says "probably 'edge or ridge of a man called Leofhere', OE pers. name +ecg. My Oxford Names Companion says "named in OE as Leofheresecg 'ridge, bank of Leofhere'". Dougweller (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Note this pdf document, though I don't know if this can be considered a reliable source. Additionally There is mention of the name Livresec in the Domesday Book. See this source and a reference relating to the name Robert de Luverseg in 1212. It's an interesting claim for the origination of a town name, so it would be worth ascertaining if it's correct or not. Richard Harvey (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Again, not a reliable source. I note that spells his surname with a 'u'. I can't find either spelling in Google Books/Scholar. There's nothing called the 'curia rolls of Yorkshire' either, although there are Curia regis rolls. I think somehow this got onto the web and is now just being passed around, which is how it got into the application in the pdf. See also [1]. Dougweller (talk) 15:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Livresec is in the Domesday Book (Great, folio 318r). But according to Place Names of the West-riding of Yorkshire that's not the etymology. They list it as being disputed. The OE "Leofhere's edge or scarp" that Dougweller mentioned they think is problematic because there aren't any topographical features like that in Liversedge. Their etymology is OE *lefer- ('rush, reed') + secg ('sedge, reeds, rush'). "Robert de Liversec" seems like a blatant folk etymology to me. I'll add this information to the article later today – sorry, I probably should have done that when I initially removed the Robert de Livresec thing. —Joseph RoeTk•Cb, 08:27, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- I've not been able to find the name 'Luvereseg' in the Curio Rolls either (RE: ref 2 in the article lede), though I did find a reference to the 'Nevilles of Liversedge' in the last paragraph of page 267, so that also needs to be addressed. As for there being no edge or scarp that is incorrect. Liversedge runs along a short low lying ridge, starting at 130m from Heightown Heights in the west and dropping into a valley bottom at Heckmondwike in the east. On the north side it drops gently to a small river and on the south side more sharply to a small river called Lands Beck. Richard Harvey (talk) 09:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
General Stuff
[edit]It's good to see this here, but it needs a fair bit of work. Flush - doesn't really exist - to call it a village is missing something. You wouldn't either call Littletown or Hightown villages in the accepted sense. If you're going to have Flush, you also need Frost Hill, Swan, Healds Hall, Ings, Rawfolds, Thorntonville, and Marsh. The big omission is Hartshead - which is traditionally part of Liversedge as well. I'm not sure that Doggus was the original name for Norristhorpe - it's certainly a well established nickname though and needs to be in here
I'll try and help sort some of it if I ever get the time 78.32.193.115 (talk) 10:21, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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Schools
[edit]How about some information about the schools in the area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.107.202 (talk) 09:39, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I know of at least one in the area: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Spen_Valley_High_School — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.107.202 (talk) 09:56, 26 August 2016 (UTC)