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Former featured listList of Braathens destinations is a former featured list. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page and why it was removed. If it has improved again to featured list standard, you may renominate the article to become a featured list.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured list on January 27, 2014.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 24, 2010Peer reviewReviewed
February 24, 2010Featured list candidatePromoted
July 16, 2023Featured list removal candidateDemoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 30, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Norwegian airline Braathens' destinations included seven offshore oil fields served by Braathens Helikopter?
Current status: Former featured list
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This page does not meet the featured list criteria, specifically:

  • Attribute 2: the lead is a generic lead that could be for the main page of this airline, and does not set out the inclusion criteria.
  • Attribute 3b: the start/stop dates for a number of services in the list are sourced to individual news articles about services starting and stopping, however these do not support the idea that the service was continuous between those dates - airline services start, stop, and re-commence all the time so an explicit statement in a reliable source is needed to the effect that these services operated continuously between these dates. The stop-dates for many of these services inherently cannot be supported by the sources cited, since the sources were published before the end-dates given - it is simply assumed that the service continued from then until 2004. For some (not all) services this is made explicit by marking them "non-continuous", but in that case there is clearly information that is being obfuscated (i.e., when did the service start/stop between those dates?). Some are clearly services operated by other airlines, not the airline that is the subject of the article.
  • Attribute 3c: this list largely reproduces prose content already found in the main article about this airline, and indeed is a repetition of the prose content found elsewhere in the "history" section of the same article (itself a repetition of content at the main article), and a fork of the two(!) history articles about this airline.

Additionally, this list is a clear failure of WP:NOT, which expressly forbids providing an exhaustive list of all the services of a commercial enterprise (which Braathens manifestly is). In as much as this article is not simply a history of Braathens (which is already covered at the main airline page) it is a failure of WP:CORP, which bars trivial coverage such as "simple listings or compilations, such as ... product or service offerings" and "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as...the opening or closing of local branches, franchises, or shops [and/or] the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business" from sustaining notability. Whilst featuring is not a guarantee of inclusion in Wikipedia or decisive of AFD outcomes, it is heavily persuasive and the featuring of this list (and the list of Cathay Dragon destinations which has since had its featured list status removed) has acted as bar on cleaning up this area of the project. FOARP (talk) 07:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Scheduled destinations only - wtf?

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Arriving at this page by chance, I read the title, and took it at face value. Then I spent a period ripping my hair out, until I stumbled across the small print, advising me that this was only listing Braathens SCHEDULED destinations. But it doesn't say that it in the title, and it only barely mentions it elsewhere, hence the change to a section header made by me. It casually mentions that Braathens started out as a charter airline, but that really only tells half the story. Less than half, as far as I am concerned.

Full disclosure; next up is some blatant WP:OR. During the 1970s, a period when it is claimed Braathens international services could only be charter flights, I somehow managed to see pretty much every aircraft in their fleet, large and small, without ever setting foot in Norway. It was impossible for me to know then whether they were operating charter or scheduled, but I can confirm that they definitely turned up at Gatwick and Stansted on a regular basis. And that was just the UK. According to various photo databases, they also managed flights to Germany, Austria, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Tunisia, and basically most of Europe. I am only now beginning to understand that these must have been charter flights, every single one of them. And there were a large number.

Does this article need to be MOVED to something reflecting this limitation to scheduled destinations? And how on earth did it qualify as FA with such a glaring omission? Perhaps the reviewers looked at it with innocent eyes, blissfully unaware that it was only telling half the story. In that respect it seriously fails WP:DUE.

WendlingCrusader (talk) 03:52, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]