Talk:List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones
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Elvis Presley's stats in the article
[edit]Recent changes in some of his achievements listed, particularly "Most top 40 singles" and "Most Hot 100 entries" has me wondering what the consensus is regarding how we list these. It is noted with his numbers that they include both Hot 100 and pre-Hot 100 chart data, and a few editors are wanting to focus on just his Hot 100 stats, which is not a reflection of his overall career (that started more than two years before the Hot 100 did). For the two categories I mentioned above, this may seem less of a deal when compared to the numbers of contemporary artists (like Drake and Lil Wayne), but an edit to his count for "Most number-one singles" (diff)(a recent edit I reverted, returning his count from 7 to 18) is quite another story. It is true that he had only seven (7) number-one singles on the Hot 100 itself, as indicated here, but his other number ones before August 1958 (on various pre-Hot 100 pop charts like Best Sellers, Most Played by DJs, and even the Top 100) are just as important to his career, if not more so. That being said, unless another consensus is reached to focus on only his Hot 100 chart entries, we should stick to reporting the data associated with his entire career (Hot 100 and before). MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- The article is about Billboard Hot 100 achievements, not Rock era achievements. As such, all stats in this article should focus on everyone's Hot 100 stats and reflect what Billboard currently has. This issue is not new: I went back through the talk archives and noticed a similar conversation occurred in 2006! Richard Hendricks (talk) 21:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused mostly by Elvis being listed as having 18 number-one singles. For all of the other statistics Billboard would agree with it, regardless of if it predates the Hot 100, but they're very concrete on him having 17 number one singles because the single, as was issued at the time, was Don't Be Cruel/Hound Dog. I'm not really sure why non-Billboard sources are being used as the yardstick for that ranking, especially given that, predating of the Hot 100 or not, we don't really make that exception for double A-sides on any other article, for any other song, or for any other artist. If the measurement is about double A-sides counting twice for a singles ranking if both sides are big enough then acts like Elton John has a credible argument to be added to the ten club and the Beatles would probably have 21 or 22. I know it was changed a long time ago (for reasons that I'm sure made sense at the the time, though I don't know them) so everyone has gotten used to it but I don't think it should count because ultimate the primary source, the magazine itself, disputes it. That's what should matter. Thurboas (talk) 21:48:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2024
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A Bar Song has now tied 'One Sweet Day' for longest running no.1. I'd like to add that as a note under record progression of no.1's Seod13ie (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done. There's a longer running #1 than both of those ... "Old Town Road" by Lil Nas X featuring Billy Ray Cyrus ended up on top for 19 weeks (18 with Cyrus). If I'm following that progression section correctly, the song "Despacito" by Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber was noted when it tied the then-16-week record of "One Sweet Day", but neither song has the record thanks to "Old Town Road". (For the record, too, "Last Night" by Morgan Wallen got to 16 weeks in 2023, and that's also not noted because of "Old Town Road" setting the new record.) MPFitz1968 (talk) 20:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
"Biggest number-one" inconsistency with regards to Michael Jackson
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In the overall table for "Most number-one songs", Michael Jackson's biggest number-one song is listed as "Billie Jean". However, in the table for male artists only, his biggest number-one song is listed as "Say Say Say", a duet with Paul McCartney.
Since "Say Say Say" ranks higher on the GOAT Hot 100 songs list than "Billie Jean", please add it as Michael Jackson's biggest number-one in the overall table to correct the inconsistency. Tfa-20 (talk) 23:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Kendrick Lamar Debuts
[edit]Kendrick Lamar now has 3 #1 debuts as of "squabble up", making him one of the artists with the most. 73.15.73.230 (talk) 07:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Most years (non-consecutive) charting a #1 song
[edit]Currently, there is a table for the most consecutive years at #1. However, there is no section for the most years at #1 with being consecutive not required. This article mentions that the record is Mariah Carey at 20 years with the next places being held by Paul McCartney, Beyoncé, Michael Jackson, and Madonna. DevilsTaz (talk) 23:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)