Talk:Leigh Anne Tuohy
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Michael Oher Conservatorship
[edit]Please read the article at this link: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/the-blind-side-subject-michael-oher-alleges-tuohy-family-lied-about-adoption/ar-AA1fgINY. I am not sufficiently familiar with wikipedia to know if this can be referenced and used to update the Leanne Tuohy article in the wiki. Could someone look into this please? 2001:569:7A95:3C00:AC79:4FA7:49E8:BDBA (talk) 20:11, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
No source for adoption
[edit]This article lists that Tuohy adopted Oher, but I see no evidence listed that this is the case. A comment suggests no edits should be made until the petition is settled in court, but there should be no reference to the adoption, since it is alleged by the accused in the petition, not verified in a public court case. The only source for this information are accounts made by Tuohy herself. The information should remain impartial, not choose the side of the accused until the complainant disproves it in court. An edit saying the adoption is alleged, or removal of Oher as the child of Tuohy would be most accurate until the case is settled in court. The remaining information should be protected until the court case is settled, but a mention of the petition should also be made, as it is relevant information to the personal life of the subject. 173.212.114.208 (talk) 21:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's not choosing sides to leave the article as referring to him as adopted. Even in civil cases, you're innocent from accusations until proven guilty in court. This is the basic fundamental of the court system in the US. By the way the law works, until Michael Oher proves in court they didn't legally adopt him, he is considered adopted by the Tuohys. The article, per Wikipedia policy, will reflect them being only allegations that he's not legally adopted until the Tuohys get their day in court.--Rockchalk717 22:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Accusing someone of not adopting you is not a crime. I also wasn't aware that Wikipedia ran based on the US court system. Surely if we err on the side of needing evidence - we should remove the adoption mention until its proven that he is/was. 2A01:4B00:E053:1800:282F:386C:AE35:EB8B (talk) 18:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2023
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Request to change "She is the adopted mother of the football player Michael Oher" to "She is a legal Conservator of the football player Michael Oher." Source: https://defector.com/michael-oher-says-adoption-story-at-heart-of-the-blind-side-was-a-lie
A Conservator is not a child. All descriptions of Michael Oher as her "child" should be eliminated. Dadamstowel (talk) 23:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- This will not be done because as of right now it is just allegation. Innocent until proven guilty applies to civil cases too.--Rockchalk717 00:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Resolving bias in existing article
[edit]Only scant and basic factual details of Oher’s allegations are included in the article, while editors have taken steps to characterize the emotional reaction of the accused. Multiple outlets have reported on Oher’s emotional distress connected to his alleged recent discovery of the alleged financial exploitation, while fewer have cited the Tuohy’s emotional reaction. Either the reaction of this subject’s spouse should be removed, or the full allegations & alleged impact on Oher should be included.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38190720/blind-side-subject-michael-oher-alleges-adoption-was-lie-family-took-all-film-proceeds 108.18.30.14 (talk) 02:05, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. I support removing the husband's reaction entirely, or a more "neutral" approach could be to keep the explanation of the conservation but removing "He called the claims "insulting" but also said despite the allegations made by him, they still love Oher." Tiggeritian (talk) 03:18, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- I went ahead and attempted to make it more neutral. I purposely made it fairly limited by sticking to what (to me) seemed like the basic explanation of what originally happened for both sides it would be difficult to include details of the statements in a way people would feel was equal without including both in full. Tiggeritian (talk) 04:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you - There’s definitely more balance now. However, there’s also more content focusing on the Tuohy’s allegations against Oher than there is on Oher’s allegations. Oher has specifically alleged that the Tuohy’s removed him from profit participation in projects based on his life - this allegation is vital context for the Tuohy’s claims about Oher. Either context about the allegations of the Tuohy’s financial impropriety should be added, or the Tuohy’s allegations against Oher should be removed. 108.18.30.14 (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. I had removed that, and it was added back. I opened an item on the Biography of Living Persons Noticeboard if you want to comment there. I don't know enough about Wikipedia policy to do more than that. Tiggeritian (talk) 03:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you - There’s definitely more balance now. However, there’s also more content focusing on the Tuohy’s allegations against Oher than there is on Oher’s allegations. Oher has specifically alleged that the Tuohy’s removed him from profit participation in projects based on his life - this allegation is vital context for the Tuohy’s claims about Oher. Either context about the allegations of the Tuohy’s financial impropriety should be added, or the Tuohy’s allegations against Oher should be removed. 108.18.30.14 (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
- I went ahead and attempted to make it more neutral. I purposely made it fairly limited by sticking to what (to me) seemed like the basic explanation of what originally happened for both sides it would be difficult to include details of the statements in a way people would feel was equal without including both in full. Tiggeritian (talk) 04:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)