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What are the top 3 Latino Canadia ethnicities? anyone know?

Latin Canadian??

Do Haitian people fall under the "Latin" race? This article was originally about Canadians of Latin American origin (specifically spanish-speaking countries), and now there isn't an article about that! There already is an article about Haitian Canadians. Personally, I think that these edits should be reverted and the Haitian Canadian article should be edited instead of this one. Does anyone agree? Blackjays1 01:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC) ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Blackjays1, there is no such thing as a "Latin" race. Latin Americans are people from the region of Latin America, which just like "Anglo America" (Canada, the US, the West Indies) is a racially and culturally diverse region with people ranging from European, Native American, African, and Asian ancestry. The term has always included Haiti and Haitians are just like Brazilians, Latin Americans, despite both groups not speaking Spanish as an official language. What these countries have in common is being colonized by European Latin people. That Haiti is a majority Black African descended nation doesn't mean anything, Spanish speaking Latin American nations are full of black people especially the Caribbean areas (Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Coastal Colombia, Venezuela, Panama).. don't forget the first enslaved Africans were brought to the Americas by Spanish and Portuguese people and most of the slaves went to Brazil and the Spanish speaking Caribbean. I'm from Cuba and I can tell you that we are culturally more similar to Haitians than we are to other Spanish speaking people outside of the Caribbean.[reply]

Also, the part about Latin Americans not being a race needs to be stressed, since it's a misconception that began in the United States. Most Latin American immigrants to the US are from Mexico and most Mexicans are mixed with European and Native American ancestry, so when people think of Latin Americans they tend to think of people who are of that mixture.. however that's only a small part of Latin America.

Like I said, I'm from Cuba, but most of my relatives are black, white, or a mixture of those two races.. racially speaking I have nothing in common with someone from Bolivia, for example, who is of Native American (Aymara) ancestry.. other than we both speak Spanish as a first language.

Lastly, that Haitians have their own article means nothing.. as being Latin American isn't an ethnic distinction but a regional one.. it's like someone can be listed as a West Indian American, African American, and Jamaican American all at the same time.

Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in Canada

This article states that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are a major source of Latin immigrants to Canada. Where are they? I am a Puerto Rican born New Yorker and lived in Toronto last summer. I met people from over the world, but I didn't meet one Puerto Rican or Dominican. I have also been to Montreal and Vancouver and didn't see any Puerto Ricans or Dominicans. Does Canada have census list by country of origin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.147.130 (talk) 08:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article 'Ethnic groups in Canada' has a big list from Statistics Canada. The three largest groups of Latinos in Canada (to answer the question at the top) are Mexicans, Chileans and Salvadorans. There are only about 1,000 Puerto Ricans in Canada: They should live in the USA since they're already considered American citizens. The number of Dominicans is unknown because Dominicans can be from the Dominican Republic OR Dominica. The total number of both come to almost 7,000, but Toronto has a sizable

Dominican community, so the number of

Dominicans in Canada is probably similar to that of the Puerto Ricans. Blackjays1 04:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Puerto Rican" may not be used but the politically correct semantics is they are Americans or from the U.S. (the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is an U.S. territory), same would go for Mexican-Texans in Alberta (the state does have many U.S. American descendants) whose families are from Texas being in the U.S. but are originally of Mexican descent. The city of Toronto has a Puerto Rican presence, except recent Latin American immigration has dwarfed their size and 1,000 is an underestimate, since I feel they are actually 10 times the number. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 08:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More women, please

There's currently just Keshia Chanté; all the rest are men. She can't be the only notable Latina Canadian, can she? SamEV (talk) 00:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Québec as Latin

When Napoléon first invented the term Latin America, he applied it to all persons inhabiting the Americas speaking Romance languages (French, Spanish, Portuguese), rather than Germanic Languages (English, Dutch). He explicitly considered the Québecois to be Latin Americans, as the French are Latin Europeans. Why are they not included here? samwaltz (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because he didn't, by that time Quebec was part of the English empire. THe Latin American identity was invented by white elites in Latin America who considered themselves part of the European Latin sub-race, they wanted to portray all their nations as linked to Latin Europe and it was heavily political, Quebec was never part of that discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.163.172 (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Which terms are used most?

Is Latino Canadian more frequently used than Latin American Canadian, Hispanic Canadian, etc.?

If there is no one predominant term, perhaps Latin American Canadian would be the clearest name for the article, with the others being redirects. At least some of the cited sources use this term. --JWB (talk) 17:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be willing to research it a little, please? Help us out. SamEV (talk) 22:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latino Canadian: 2660 hits (including Wikipedia)
Latin Canadian: 2760 hits
Latin American Canadian: 12600 hits

--JWB (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. How about a sampling of scholarly sources, books, academic papers, "Latino Canadian" organizations themselves? SamEV (talk) 22:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same searches on Google Scholar: Latino 29, Latin 22, Latin American 54. --JWB (talk) 00:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I think you should take your pick between "Latin American Canadian" and "Canadians of Latin American descent" and move it. SamEV (talk) 00:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I think "Latin Canadian" is highly disqualifiable as it raises the issue of whether "Latin" includes Francophone Canadians. "Hispanic" would similarly seem to lump in Spanish (Spain) Canadians. SamEV (talk) 00:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, performed move, cited and used all 4 terms in article body, and noted the Statistics Canada reference uses Latin American. --JWB (talk) 01:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work. Nice working with you. SamEV (talk) 01:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Visible Minority

Previously, the main section suggested that Latin Americans were always considered a visible minority. The source given, however, indicates that "persons who gave mark-in responses of "White and Latin American", "White and Arab" or "White and West Asian" only with no write-in response classified as visible minority, n.i.e.; persons who gave a mark-in response of Latin American, Arab, or West Asian only, along with a European write-in response (e.g. French, German, Norwegian)" are not a visible minority (point 2). I changed the sentence to say that non-white Latin Americans are legally a visible minority. You're welcome to change it if you find a better way to phrase the idea conveyed in the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gymast96 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Potential sources

Hernandez, Alejandro. "Latin Americans face a stubborn pay gap in Canada, data shows". The Conversation.
Mata, Fernando G. (1985). "Latin American Immigration to Canada: Some Reflections on the Immigration Statistics". Canadian Journal of Latin American and Caribbean Studies / Revue canadienne des études latino-américaines et caraïbes. 10 (20): 27–42. ISSN 0826-3663.
Ruiz, Wilson. "Latin American Canadians". The Canadian Encyclopedia.
Simmons, Alan B. (1993). "Latin American Migration to Canada: New Linkages in the Hemispheric Migration and Refugee Flow System". International Journal. 48 (2): 282–309. doi:10.2307/40202882. ISSN 0020-7020. (if you don't have JSTOR access: [1])
"The Latin American Community in Canada". www150.statcan.gc.ca.

All from a quick google search. No time to start doing what is likely to be a fair bit of work here now, but this should be useful should anybody wish to do so. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally (moved from the article, where they were unused):

Armony, Victor. 2014. “Latin American Communities in Canada: Trends in Diversity and Integration.” Canadian Ethnic Studies, 46 (3), p. 7-34.
Lindsay, Colin. 2007. “The Latin American Community in Canada”. Analytical Paper – Profiles of Ethnic Communities in Canada. Statistics Canada. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:42, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to proper name

We should move this to the name used by Canada "Latin, Central and South American Canadians" as "Hispanic" is a sub set in Canada. our stats ...best avoid American term that is not inclusive.Moxy- 18:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not necessarily opposed to the term Hispanic, but it's certainly not quite as well established in Canada as it is in the United States. See the sources in the previous section, for example. Also, the Canadian equivalent of National Hispanic Heritage Month is called Latin American Heritage Month. At the same time, I'm not convinced that anyone actually says "Latin, Central and South American Canadians" – what StatCan actually says is people of "Latin, Central and South American origins". Cobblet (talk) 01:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tag in the references section

How can the references section need 'additional citations'? The tag should be removed. Pugliese23 (talk) 19:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bring back the Sub-categories for Latin American Canadians

Hello! I was an editor who created the vast amount of sub-categories for certain Latin American Canadians and I'd like to see it back because since the 2021 Canadian Census has already commenced, and there's a new source for it, it's best to allow each sub-category to have it's own page, with viable links. I can't do everything and write each article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhiladelphiaWanderer34 (talk • contribs) 08:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]