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Release Date 1987?
[edit]Is that correct? I remember getting Madonna's album in Summer 1986 in London on summer vacation there. Can anyone double check? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.139.134 (talk) 03:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC) Indeed given the significance of this title, it seems to me it would be useful to specify the version, as there are 14 ISRC versions IFPI database one of which shows a release date of 1986.06.11 (for a True Blue cassette and a 5:27 duration for that cut). True Blue was recorded between December 1985 and April 1986 and the sake of of preservation and possible quality enhancement of the original recordings with Michael Verdick / Michael Hutchinson / Dan Nebenzal and mastering by Ted Jensen at Sterling Sound, it would be great to have a section identifying the recording equipment used (e.g. what analog recorder, tracks, tape speed & width, heads, VCA, possible compansion like Dolby SR. A DSD remastering might be worthwile. Also the microphones patterns and capsules used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cquarksnow (talk • contribs) 05:06, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
La Palma Island
[edit]This summer I've been in La Palma (the second-most western island of the Canary Islands in Spain). I was told the Madonna song refers to this Island (La Palma), where Madonna was supossed to live for some time. There are some facts which could indicate this is true: The song talks of "siesta" a typical Spanish custom (Spanish reference also in "Your Spanish lullaby") The City/town referred in the song (San Pedro) could well be the town of San Pedro de Breña Alta. See http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/lapalma/geography.html The motto of the Island is "La Isla Bonita" as in the song title (see http://www.lapalmaturismo.com/ingles/MARCO/MARCO1.htm). The Island has a wild nature ("All of nature wild and free"), see http://www.islalapalma.com/en/places/index.html?p=caldera Ths Island has a tropical climate (as in "Tropical the island breeze")
The article refers to Geri Halliway as using Spanish style inspired by this song. I just wanted to say that this cannot be really true as Halliway's mother is Spanish so the influence of Spanish words in her songs is obvious.
Everyone knows that the "isla bonita" is La palma (spain) but people write what they want. Not that belize island —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.217.66.180 (talk) 16:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Madonna has mentioned that San Pedro in La Isla Bonita was made up and she has no idea where it came - it could have been a turn off on the freeway or something else that triggered her thoughts. She has never lived in the Canary Islands either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.31.245 (talk) 21:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Nope, La Isla Bonita is a real place
[edit]It's motto is "La Palma" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.152.248.120 (talk) 02:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
La Isla Bonita (Remix/Edit)
[edit]This version is available in the german CD "The Hits Album 6". Also you can find it in many 7" vinyls.
Byanka's Mexican Spanish version
[edit]Do you know the Mexican singer Byanka when it was used by the 1987 Spanish song version of the same title? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.178.88 (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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Agnetha Fältskog
[edit]Hello guys. I recently read on an ABBA-related internet page that the song (before finally offered to Madonna) was intended to be given to Agnetha Fältskog so she could record it. Can anybody confirm this or does anybody know something about this at all? I just wanted to mention it. If it's true (and I personally doubt it), then this fact should be included in the article. Thanks, OfficeBoy (talk) 17:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Default sort?
[edit]Since "la" is an article meaning "the" in Spanish, should this page have a default sort so that it would show up in the categories under the letter I instead of the letter L? Zephyrnthesky (talk) 04:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Confessions Tour performance
[edit]The article says: "Madonna performed "La Isla Bonita" during the Live Earth benefit concert where she was joined by members of gypsy punk band Gogol Bordello for a crazed hoedown version of the song.[56] Gogol Bordello had previously joined her on the 2006 Confessions Tour where the song was played as a dance/tribal remix with interventions from Eugene Hutz and Sergey Ryabtsev from Gogol Bordello."
While it's true that Madonna was joined on stage by Gogol Bordello for her Live Earth performance of the song, Gogol Bordello were not featured in the Confessions Tour. Live Earth was the first, and so far only time, that Madonna and Gogol Bordello performed on stage together.--141.35.40.136 (talk) 09:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Gogol Bordello did not join as a group there. Just Hutz and Ryabtsev was there. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
What is meant by “singing in C♯ minor”?
[edit]The article says Madonna’s voice “changes from C♯ minor to F♯ minor”.
I’m a musician and I have no idea what that means. C♯ minor and F♯ minor are chords. You don’t sing in chords, you sing pitches.
If no one can explain this within a few weeks, I’m going to change the article.
Grand Dizzy (talk) 19:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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Who "offered" it?
[edit]the article keeps saying the song was "offered" to Michael Jackson, then Madonna and even others. So if Madonna wrote the melody and words, who is doing this "offering"? what exactly are they "offering"?
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Translation
[edit]The Spanish "La Isla Bonita" translates into English as "the pretty island", not "beautiful" as stated in the article. Not the same meaning.Lazyzee (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:00, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Misheard lyrics
[edit]British audiences often mishear the first line of this song as "Last night I dreamt of some dago". I don't have a WP:RS for this, but a google search reveals lots of examples. Is this significant enough to add to the article? --Ef80 (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Usage of image in 'critical reception' section
[edit]I am creating this discussion because I wanted to get to a clear consensus regarding whether or not the performance image used on the 'Critical reception' version is appropriate or not. I have yet modified the article and included a text-box with a review of the song, but you can see how it used to be with the image on this version. My reason to included was to have more than. just two images of the song's performance, as I personally believe, they're relevant to the understanding of the article. @Aoba47: has explained on his peer review comment that it's not appropriate, hence why I altered the article and with the whole Bad Romance debacle I wanted to ask for second opinions (@IndianBio:, @Bluesatellite:, @Apoxyomenus:) on whether or not the image should be kept or not. Christian (talk) 14:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- I like images, including the one in question, but the section about live performances already has two images illustrating five paragraphs, which is sufficient. One more image in that section would crowd the text. One the other hand, the proposed image is supported by discussion in the section about the gypsy themed performance which the photograph shows. Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- I feel images should not just be added for the sake of it, which the previous image in critical reception section felt like. The two images in the live performance section as noted above by Binksternet is more than enough to capture the essence of the overarching performances associated with Madonna singing it in many of her concerts. But @Chrishm21, you need to tie it with why the images are there in the first place, a generic "Madonna performing song ABC in concert XYZ" just doesn't cut it. —IB [ Poke ] 11:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Just to add I meant support for this version but replace the Girlie Show picture in Critical reception with the Slant Magazine critic quote. —IB [ Poke ] 12:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello! So you mean leave it as it is @IndianBio:? Also, the image from Girlie Show is placed right next to the paragraph that mentions it, so I find it appropriate to leave it as it is :) --Christian (talk) 12:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- This looks good as it is, maybe a little expansion of the Rebel Heart Tour image? Like what is that performance exactly adding? —IB [ Poke ] 17:03, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello! So you mean leave it as it is @IndianBio:? Also, the image from Girlie Show is placed right next to the paragraph that mentions it, so I find it appropriate to leave it as it is :) --Christian (talk) 12:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Just to add I meant support for this version but replace the Girlie Show picture in Critical reception with the Slant Magazine critic quote. —IB [ Poke ] 12:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- I feel images should not just be added for the sake of it, which the previous image in critical reception section felt like. The two images in the live performance section as noted above by Binksternet is more than enough to capture the essence of the overarching performances associated with Madonna singing it in many of her concerts. But @Chrishm21, you need to tie it with why the images are there in the first place, a generic "Madonna performing song ABC in concert XYZ" just doesn't cut it. —IB [ Poke ] 11:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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