Talk:Knowsley Hall shootings

Knowsley Hall shootings is currently a Law good article nominee. Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 18:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Note: Not my usual area of work but I think it meets the crieria - Dumelow (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Short description: 1952 event in Merseyside, England

A fact from Knowsley Hall shootings appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1952 a 19-year-old footman shot Lady Derby and three members of staff at Knowsley Hall in England?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Knowsley Hall shootings.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 01:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Knowsley Hall, pictured in 2011

... that in 1952 a 19-year-old footman shot Lady Derby and three members of staff at Knowsley Hall (pictured) in England? Source: The best coverage for the whole story is this contemporary newspaper article, I've clipped it from newspapers.com so it should be accessible by anybody
- ALT1: ... that after being shot with a sub-machine gun at Knowsley Hall (pictured), England, in 1952 Lady Derby feigned death as two of her staff were murdered in the same room? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Caity Baser

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 09:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Knowsley Hall shootings; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What was the lady's name?

The first sentence of the Background section refers to the "Earl of Derby, and his wife, Lady Derby, Isabel Milles-Lade, daughter of Henry Milles-Lade". It's unlikely that she would have kept her maiden name on marriage to the earl. My guess is that someone has looked up the earl in Burke's Peerage, read something like "m. 1948 Isabel Milles-Lade" and copied it thoughtlessly. Could someone with access to a peerage check, and maybe add "née"? Maproom (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]