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Morgan Lander on Kittie's Wikipedia

Per an interview with Metal Hammer Germany (very rough translation):

Q: "We just wanted to open the brand new final chord question, whether you have ever opened your Wikipedia page on have checked factual accuracy, when we realized that Morgan Lander was even does not have its own Wikipedia page. Gives [sic] is there a specific reason for this?

A: "A very special one, yes: There are some Wikipedia troll who wants to use my page constantly deletes. I don't know who is behind it and why it's being done, but we have tried several times to create a personal entry page for me, but someone deletes them again and again. What the band side [sic] There are definitely some things Not correctly worded or incorrectly focused, which is a bit frustrating. There were even names of alleged band members in the timeline who have never been in the band or even do not exist. Wikipedia is like the wild one West. No rules, no real ones Mediator. It's all a bit frustrating."

Thiessies, Frank (July 2024). "Schlussakkord: Morgan Lander". Metal Hammer. Germany. p. 146. Retrieved 22 January 2025. (online version is snippet only: not full text. you can buy the full pdf issue here)

// Chchcheckit (talk) 15:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if, individually, there would be enough notability for Morgan and Mercedes to have their own pages. But maybe a singular page for both wouldn't be a bad idea? Similar to Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Butcher Bros., Billy and Bobby Mauch, etc. Since both are sisters and both have primarily been involved in the same band, there's a lot of crossover to justify a single page. Thus, any personal info on them + any other non-Kittie ventures can be on that page instead of on the Kittie page. Xanarki (talk) 17:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

im pretty sure there are many sources that can fill out both of their bios separately since they've done different bands I.e. karkaos for Morgan and the white swan for Mercedes etc etc. It's a matter of someone being willing to do it. albeit writing about people instead of entities is not my forte (I wish I didn't make the trish doan page). // Chchcheckit (talk) 20:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I quickly skimmed thru their credits. Morgan has only been a member of Kittie and Karkaos, in addition to roughly 4 or 5 guest appearances on other bands' albums. Mercedes has only been a member of Kittie and White Swan and Alcohollys, in addition to maybe only 1 or 2 guest appearances on other bands' albums.

Those 3 bands I mentioned don't even have their own Wiki pages so they don't seem too notable. I'm pretty certain both sisters have done a few non-music related ventures though, which would certainly add some depth.

So, looking at each person individually, it'd be difficult to justify an article for each one. But a combined one might be feasible. Maybe fans who has followed them more than I have could weigh in. Xanarki (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Hansen

Hannah Hansen Is not a new member of the band. There was no Official announcement to support this.

Timeline

The timeline here is contradictory to its own article. It says in the article that Jennifer and Lisa left the band on 3/23/2005, and your timeline says 01/01/2005. Also your timeline says Until the End was released on October 27 instead of the factual July 27. I changed these, but they were reverted because apparently there needs to be a "consensus" to change information that's literally from its own article. I was also warned not to, and I quote, "cause disruption on Wikipedia by purposely inserting immature schoolyard attacks or other defamatory and/or bullshit into an article, or any other Wikipedia page again, as you did at Kittie,". So you guys can work on your consensus, and in the meantime I would love to hear how correcting dates is adding schoolyard attacks or bullshit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.74.77.154 (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]