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Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).

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Brazil

What's all this about Brazil in the Infobox? --PaxEquilibrium 23:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC) Yes, it's debatable, but the Empire of Brazil was in a way one of the offshots of the Kingdom of Portugal, I supposse... The Ogre 07:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History section

Hello PaxEquilibrium, I see you were trying to expand the history section. In fact I dont't even know if this article should exist, since talking about the Kingdom of Portugal is basically talking about ... Portugal! I'm not proposing to delete it, though... but I do think one should not replicate information well develloped in other articles. Also because a small selection of events would not satisfy everyone's criteria of what should be included or not. And by the way, you had an error: Portugal was never annexed by the Kingdom of Spain; the country maintained its formal independece since it was a personal union of the crows in the period called of Iberian Union, just after the Portuguese dynastic crisis. The Ogre 07:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand - but Wikipedia should have articles on all former states - keep on mind that Portugal is a Republic now - and it hasn't got one on the Kingdom of Portugal. See Russian Empire, Kingdom of Serbia, Kingdom of Italy etc... I understand your point, but I think that having a separate article on the Kingdom (with the *former country* template) IMHO a right thing. AFAIK, why not integrate it into the History of Portugal omnibus and split it into several articles? Like "Early Royal Portugal", "Portuguese Empire", etc...?

I noticed, sorry for that; please fix any error I make, I am only starting to deeply research Portuguese history. Cheers! --PaxEquilibrium 10:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this page should be merged with Portugal...The "History of Portugal series" (seen in History of Portugal, for example) template already have good sub-sections to develop about the Portuguese history...Anyway I like the "former country" template but it should say something like "Historical development of Portugal" below the name, because it may seem that Portugal disappeared.Câmara (talk) 21:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Was the Kingdom of Portugal legally separate from the Portuguese Empire? I don't understand why there are two different articles for these two states, at least beyond the point where the Portuguese Empire officially began. 70.138.217.107 (talk) 05:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into History of Portugal?

This is a skeletal article, consisting mostly of links to well-developed sub-articles. Also, its scope is that of 50% of the general History of Portugal article (I mean to say, 50% of the body of the History of Portugal is about the period 1139 to 1910). So it may make sense to merge this page into History of Portugal. Already, the coverage on that page is much better developed than what we have here, so when I say merge I basically mean redirect, plus adjust the table of content at History of Portugal to include a "Kingdom" section. --dab (𒁳) 15:59, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

on second thoughts, this would be too radical. This article should be worked into something similar to kingdom of France, which also has sub-articles such as medieval France or Early Modern France.

But I have to question the wisdom of the division of existing sub-articles. Why did History of Portugal (1139–1279) and History of Portugal (1279–1415) choose 1279 as cut-off date? Would not the crisis of 1383 have been a more natural choice? Or why not do away with this cut-off altogether and treat the 1139-1415 period as a single "Middle Ages" topic?

Also, why 1415? This is apparently the conquest of Ceuta, which is certainly a good choice for the starting-date of the Portuguese Empire page. But why impose this date, which falls squat in the middle of the reign of poor John I of Portugal, on two other articles?

Why not, for example, one article dealing with 1139-1383, and another one with 1383-1580? This would meaningfully divide the early history of Portugal into a "medieval" period under the Portuguese House of Burgundy and a Portuguese Renaissance part under the House of Aviz. The 1415 date puts far too much weight on the conquest of a single island, which in retrospect is only symbolically important as the starting point of a long string of conquests.

Then the 1777 division between History of Portugal (1640–1777) and History of Portugal (1777–1834)... fine, why not, 1777 is the end of the "Pombaline Era", which is at least an "era" that can be traced to historiographical sources.

So, on reflection, my suggestion would be to get rid of the "1279" division, and perhaps move these articles to titles suggesting less absolute accuracy (Early Modern history of Portugal, Portugal in the Middle Ages, Kingdom of Portugal (medieval), or similar). --dab (𒁳) 12:39, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

African territory?

During the map inset for the Kingdom of Portugal, it only showed modern-day Portugal's borders, which is understandable, however any, even a separate map for the African territory or the islands owned by Portugal would be beneficial. --Justin J. Liu (Dylan Smithson) (talk) 18:11, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]