Talk:Kidz Bop

NEEDS SERIOUS FIXING

Formatting! SOMEONE fix it! 145.100.125.133 (talk) 22:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because... (It was okay, even that cussword but they had a clean version and I literally saw it.) --JordanKyser22 (talk) 21:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Why would you add a speedy delete tag to the article then say it shouldn't be deleted? --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 22:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

yess Jaceleerose (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kidz Bop

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Edit request

I would like to update the founding location of KIDZ BOP. It was not founded in detroit, michigan but in NEW YORK, NY. http://kidzbop.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=6024

File:KIDZ BOP Logo.png

KIDZ BOP is the #1 music brand for kids ages 5-12 in the U.S., featuring today's most popular songs, sung by kids for kids.

This is the updated KIDZ BOP logo, please replace the old one.

Thank You!!

Request completed. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 22:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Please update

Please update with the correction information so the Wikipedia page remains factual: > > > > • KIDZ BOP was founded in 2001, not 2000. You can see this under the ‘about’ section on our website-- > > • Never has KIDZ BOP offered 'explicitly Christian versions' of the latest songs on Top 40. Our songs are 'kid appropriate' and do not contain profanity---just because it has these two qualities, does NOT mean it is explicitly Christian. Please remove--as you can see on the Wikipedia page---there is no citation for it being Christian brand. The above link will show that the company values kid-appropriate content, and has no mention of religion. > > • Why was the logo removed? Last time I check, the most updated logo was on the Wikipedia page. > > • Under the KIDZ Star USA Talent Search--- Please add that Dallas Wayde was the 2012 Winner and Gavin Degraw was the celebrity mentor--here is a press release: > > o Additionally, KIDZ BOP and Six Flags teamed up for the 2013 KIDZ Star USA Talent Search and kids can audition in two ways--online or LIVE at select Six Flags Theme Parks. This is the most up-to-date information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razorandtie (talk • contribs) 17:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

appropriate links to the above request:

KIDZ BOP was founded in 2001, not 2000. You can see this under the ‘about’ section on our website-- http://kidzbop.mediaroom.com/ > > • Never has KIDZ BOP offered 'explicitly Christian versions' of the latest songs on Top 40. Our songs are 'kid appropriate' and do not contain profanity---just because it has these two qualities, does NOT mean it is explicitly Christian. Please remove--as you can see on the Wikipedia page---there is no citation for it being Christian brand. The above link will show that the company values kid-appropriate content, and has no mention of religion. > > • Why was the logo removed? Last time I check, the most updated logo was on the Wikipedia page. > > • Under the KIDZ Star USA Talent Search--- Please add that Dallas Wayde was the 2012 Winner and Gavin Degraw was the celebrity mentor--here is a press release: http://kidzbop.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=2429&item=122486 > > o Additionally, KIDZ BOP and Six Flags teamed up for the 2013 KIDZ Star USA Talent Search and kids can audition in two ways--online or LIVE at select Six Flags Theme Parks. This is the most up-to-date information. http://kidzbop.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=2429&item=122500 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razorandtie (talk • contribs) 17:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done – http://kidzbop.mediaroom.com/ is now a dead link, so I cannot find the info mentioned above that is referenced to that link. If Razorandtie is still around – do you have a revised link to the content you discuss above?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Criticism?

I've seen a lot of criticism and backlash towards this series, mainly from original fans of the songs, saying that they "FCUKD UPP DA ZONGZ!!!1!!!" Please add a criticism page. It gets just as much hate as nu metal and deathcore, and they have criticism pages.PoisonBFMV80816 (talk) 02:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Removing past and former cast members from infobox

I am removing the "past" and "current" members from the infobox because the information is completely unsourced. So there is a record of what was removed, I'm putting it here:

Past members:

• Colin Hillius (2001–02)
• Steffan Argus (2011–13)
• Charisma Kain (2011–13)
• Eva Agathis (2011–13)
• Maddie Jackson (2008–09)
• Leila Adams (2009–11)
• Hanna Yorke (2011–13)
• Dana Vaughns (2009–11)
• Ross Lynch (2008–09)
• Harrison Moulton (2009–11)
• Ryan Ducey (2009–11)
• Becca King (2009–11)
• Jake Wittwer (2008–09)
• Kyra Green (2009–11)
• Valerie Gaitan (2009–11)
• Hunter Pecunia
• Samantha Maskell (2008)
• Kiana Brown (2011–13)
• Dallas Wayde (??–??)
• Jayna Brown (2014–15)
• Jade Wilson (2015–16)
• Billy Jones (??–??)

Current members:

• Matt Martinez
• Grant Knoche
• Bredia Santaro
• Ashlynn Chong

--IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:19, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

what gives u the right — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commons22 (talk • contribs)

This article should tell the reader about notable alumni only, that is, current and former alumni that became famous. It should not be an exhaustive list of every person. One really good measure of notability is whether multiple third party publications have written about the person in significant detail. The Kidz Bop website is a primary source, not suitable for establishing notability. Binksternet (talk) 12:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi there, the current KIDZ BOP Kids should absolutely be listed. Per your comment, they have all been listed on MULTIPLE news sources. Here are SEVERAL links from reputable news sources that interviews The KIDZ BOP Kids, or describes them in detail alongside a photograph. There are a plethora more about the entire group AND that includes individual one-on-one interviews with individual kids. Examples include Bloomberg Businessweek, Forbes Magazine, Jezebel Star Ledger: Broadway World, Billboard Magazine The KIDZ BOP Kids are the face and voice of the brand: they sing on all of the albums, star in the music videos and perform live on a national, 50-city tour. A large portion of the brands success is due to The KIDZ BOP Kids. They most certainly are notable, especially within their demographic (which I assume you are not in). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commons22 (talk • contribs) 13:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

References

Interviews are still WP:PRIMARY sources, not sufficient to establish notability. Regarding the Bloomberg article, the kids are listed and discussed in the context of Kidz Bop only, not in their own individual context. Same with the Forbes source and the Jezebel source. The North Jersey source is a local one for Matt Martinez, who would need multiple larger publications to establish notability. The Broadway World source only lists the people, giving no biographical detail. Same with the Billboard source. So none of these work for what you want them to do. These sources are great for the article but not for establishing the notability of the individuals in the current lineup. Binksternet (talk) 13:38, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

FWIW, the Kidz Bop website is an acceptable primary source for establishing the current members of Kidz Bop (some of these other refs can be added as secondary source confirmation...), and I find nothing objectionable about listing the current members – that doesn't seem WP:UNDUE to me. But I fully agree with you that a laundry list of all former members of the group is completely inappropriate for inclusion here, and even a separate List of Kidz Bop members would likely be deleted at WP:AfD were it ever created. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

100% agree. The current KIDZ BOP Kids are the face of brand, have headlined two national tours, have recorded KIDZ BOP 25-31, star in over 100 music videos on the YouTube channel, host the brand's SiriusXM channel, are listed on the website. They absolutely should be listed on the wikipedia page, as they are the identity of the brand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.223.213.107 (talk) 15:33, February 5, 2016‎ (UTC)

Well, they're the current "face of the brand", which is why they are significant enough to include here. But once they're replaced, they would only be worthy for inclusion here if they go on and do other significant things, like Ross Lynch and Zendaya. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:20, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Please review WP:ONUS: While information must be verifiable in order to be included in an article, this does not mean that all verifiable information must be included in an article. The full list of alumni should simply not be included here. At best, a separate List of Kidz Bop members could be created. But including all the alumni, notable and not, at this article unbalances it in a way that is WP:UNDUE. So I will once again remove the full alumni list. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Tour section

I updated "Life Of The Party Tour" to add: - A line about the Friendly's sponsorship - The updated Live Nation dates The other promotional stuff (that included stats, etc.) was removed. Everything is sourced. This is pretty basic, OK to leave as is. Thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Commons22 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

My recollection is that the info about the Friendly's sponsorship had been previously added, and then subsequently removed for being overly promotional. (I can't find the specific edit, unfortunately.) In any case, I think that part is overly promotional – this is an encyclopedia, and this kind of information isn't relevant. I don't see anything wrong in the other addition about the tour dates, as those are sourced. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:53, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

And now pinging Binksternet and Yamaguchi先生 as two recent editors to this page that I'd like to take a look at this edit, as Commons22 is ignoring WP:BRD on this and is edit warring to keep this promotional language in. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Got it – the Friendly's sponsorship was previously added by an IP on Feb. 29 with these edits, and was removed by Binksternet on March 11 with this edit. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I've updated the promotional language significantly to just include information about Friendly's being a title sponsor. That's relevant information as their name is associated with the tour, on all tour materials, etc. Many tours on wikipedia include sponsor information. See: The 1989 World Tour: The original post said the following. As you can see - it's been simplified.
"Friendly's Ice Cream is joining KIDZ BOP's birthday celebration as an official partner of the Life Of The Party tour, and will sponsor all dates in the Northeast. The partnership will also feature a retail promotion with a special on-pack offer and national sweepstakes. Consumers who purchase specially marked packages of Friendly's ice cream cakes can receive a free KIDZ BOP song download and enter to win prizes from KIDZ BOP & Friendly's. One lucky grand prize winner will receive a trip for a family of four to Los Angeles for a VIP KIDZ BOP experience." User:commons22 —Preceding undated comment added 05:04, March 29, 2016‎ (UTC)

References

Again, this info is purely promotional, and is inappropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia such as this one. But I'd like to see what Binksternet and Yamaguchi先生 might have to say before proceeding... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

The cite source says that the information it presents is not its own; rather, the information is a public relations release. I cannot consider this a reliable source. It looks purely promotional. Binksternet (talk) 05:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Binksternet will any of these work? AXS, Pollstar, Cynopsis, 2604:2000:F193:2900:D43D:6BD8:A345:510 (talk) 05:23, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Being able to source something doesn't mean it should be included. From WP:ONUS: "While information must be verifiable in order to be included in an article, this does not mean that all verifiable information must be included in an article. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article, and that it should be omitted or presented instead in a different article. The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:26, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

As you said yourself, you added promotional content to the article. Wikipedia is not a site for advertising or announcements. Updates about contests, tour dates or sponsorship are purely for promotional purposes and do not serve an encyclopedic value. I suggest you familiarize yourself with WP:NOT. -- ChamithN (talk) 06:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Why the Redirects?

It seems pointless to me for a sizable portion of the albums listed with links to only redirect back to this page itself. It feels somewhat redundant to me, is there a point? I just felt like asking before doing any actual editing to the page itself, because I am very new to editing wikipedia and the quality standards required for each page. I understand that it isn't easy to make pages for each and every album, it just seems pointless to make it a linked article if it just redirects to the article the link is on. Rena-kun (talk) 03:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

non-notable albums

The pages about the non-notable albums are still linked to the Kidz Bop page. I need to unlink them all. Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 21:33, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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Were any other songs removed from Kidz Bop albums?

Was there any other song removed other than Dance, Dance was removed by Pete Wentz on Kidz Bop 10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1:B18D:ACD7:C569:F04A:8111:964 (talk) 02:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Kidz Bop 39

There is no information for Kidz Bop 39 and October 12, 2018 is in −2,258 days, so I changed the release date to January 18, 2019

What is the release date now, since October 12, 2018 has been passed?, I know they delayed the album and will be released closer to winter time, but the release date is unknown.

Pruning ✂️

I'm changing all the remaining articles about individual Kidz Bop albums into redirects.

As it is, most of the albums don't have their own articles, and for good reason: there's just not much to say about each one. The few individual album articles that do exist seem to be random: there isn't anything particularly noteworthy about them (see Kidz Bop 3, Kidz Bop 4, Kidz Bop 15, etc.)

For readers looking for track lists or a review, I will add a new AllMusic column to the album table on this page, with a link for each album to its corresponding AllMusic page. WanderingWanda (talk) 23:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2022

The correct owner is Elise Ecklund she recently bought the company, and currently owns it. Supernova171 (talk) 19:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

That's not true, as she claims here: [1]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NZ43ffEpIC0 . I reverted the cahnge to the previous owner. Kwojt (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

High pitched

So have a high pitched voice and do Korean songs 2A00:23C7:2600:5101:FC10:164:7007:8216 (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2022

spelling correction 2A00:23C6:278E:4A01:DC42:8480:89E5:6297 (talk) 22:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:278E:4A01:DC42:8480:89E5:6297 (talk) 22:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request

In the section SiriusXm radio I would LIke to have Channel 77 Changed to Channel 79 Ng1234567 (talk) 00:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024

Since its debut, KIDZ BOP has sold over 24 million albums and has generated over 11 billion streams globally.

In January 2014, KIDZ BOP and SiriusXM Launched Kidz Bop Radio, a 24/7 channel dedicated to playing KIDZ BOP music (Channel 135). KIDZBOP2020 (talk) 20:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done. No source for the requested change. Binksternet (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024 (2)

Change In January 2014, Kidz Bop and SiriusXM Launched Kidz Bop Radio, a 24/7 channel dedicated to playing Kidz Bop music (Channel 79). to In January 2014, Kidz Bop and SiriusXM Launched Kidz Bop Radio, a 24/7 channel dedicated to playing Kidz Bop music (Channel 135). SOURCE:

Please change Since its debut, Kidz Bop has sold over 21 million albums and has generated over 4.5 billion streams.[3] to Since its debut, Kidz Bop has sold over 24 million albums and has generated over 11 billion streams.[3] SOURCE: KIDZBOP2020 (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done. Prnewswire only puts out promotional releases. They are not reliable for statements of fact. Binksternet (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2024

I think the Wikipedia page could use Elise ecklunds viral mentions of kids bop. Cradleofcivilization (talk) 09:19, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Can you expand and clarify what you mean by this? Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Sourceless Info RE: 2007 Tour

Just wondering about this sentence under the "Tour" section:

"It was funded, at least in part, by Karen Zerby."

This info that has absolutely no source. A quick web search shows that the only source for this claim is this wikipedia page. Was this a joke add that just stuck around? Chrysothrix (talk) 08:09, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Censorships

Censorships are important in Kidz Bop, as it helps keep song more child-friendly by removing inappropriate words, but this could be pretty controversial as they even censor less inappropriate words. Can there be more info about Kidz Bop songs being censored to be included in this article? Sparkbean (talk) 14:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

We already have a paragraph about censorship and how it doesn't really work in these songs because the adult themes are still present. Binksternet (talk) 18:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

But there is only a few info in that paragraph that connects the evidence to my claim. Sparkbean (talk) 18:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

If you want to add something more about censorship you would need to find a published source discussing the issue. You would then summarize the source and cite it. Binksternet (talk) 19:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll do that eventually, but I see this a lot on Fandom wikis, and I know Fandom isn't reliable, it's just that Kidz Bop can be controversial sometimes. Sparkbean (talk) 21:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

See also

Minipops might be worth a link. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:FC:ACA7:543A:629 (talk) 17:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)