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Jordanian Arabic & corrections

First of all this article shoud be renamed to Jordanian Arabic. Secondly, The north and the south has different dialect. the north (Irbid to As-Salt speaks with Hourani dialect while the south (Madaba to Aqaba) speaks with Moabites dialect. The dialect in Amman the capital is a mix of these two dialect. Also the Bedouin and the Rural (peasants) has different dialect within the original Hourani or Moabites dialect.

Confusion with Arabic

I'm sorry if this article is causing confusion to anyone; the reason why this article is not being treated with the repeated word "Arabic" is because this article is focusing solely on Jordanian as a unique and treasured dialect and not its relationship with the Arabic or Turkish language. I'm trying to sort this out based on my college research. --68.102.33.128 (talk) 23:56, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Political or racial motives

I don't understand why some editors, their names will not be written down in order to protect their privacy, keep mentioning words such as immigrants, Palestinians, non-Jordanians and other racially sensitive words and phrases; despite the fact that the Jordanian Kingdom is a vast and multi-racial country. This is a scholarly article and should not be an arena of racism or political affiliations. --68.102.33.128 (talk) 23:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorting it out.--82.11.107.253 (talk) 08:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC) Fixed!--82.11.107.253 (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned about the statement that "[Native Jordanian Arabic] is much truer to the Arabic language than that spoken in Amman." Modern spoken dialects all show divergence from fusha and Quranic Arabic. The citation on Ethnologue makes no such assertion to indicate that the statement is correct.

It is a common myth in the Arab world that one dialect of Arabic is "truer" than another, however the justifications offered are more-often than not academically flawed. Such statements are more likely to be politically-motivated.

--Leftwing Pinko —Preceding undated comment added 01:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Turkish grammar?

I'm not aware of any grammatical relationship between Jordanian Arabic and Turkish. I acknowledge that there will be *terminology* and vocabulary which originates from Ottoman rule, as is common in many dialects of Arabic, however this doesn't have any influence upon the grammatical structure of Jordanian Arabic.

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My Dear Mate, Terminology in other Levantine dialects is much more influenced by Turkish than Jordanian, Jordanian has the tendency to use English loan words instead of Turkish. However, Levantine grammatical behaviour has a lot to do with Turkish; for example, in order to say someone is muscular we use, in Jordanian, the word "Âdalanji". Another example could be "Maúaserji" which means plumber, "Sakkarji" means drunken, "Elektrönji" meaning 'electrician' and "Alkoholji" which means Alcoholic. The suffix -ji is actually lifted directly from the Turkish suffix -cı which is pronounced Jeh. This suffix is similar to the English -ic, -cian or -lar and is directly lifted from Turkish and is usually found only in Levantine and Turkish, among other Turkic languages. Other grammatical influences is the over all sentence structure of the verb, in Jordanian one would use the suffix -ş, -aş or -eş to negate a verb, example being "Paqdar/eş" meaning I can/not. in Turkish it is usually accompanied with the ending -m. In Arabic, the negative is usually "Lā" in front of the verb; "I cannot" becomes: "Lā asţaţiê", while "I can" is "asţaţiê". There are many more of which I cannot think right now. I hope I helped.

--46.185.236.38 (talk) 16:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Academic level pull-up

The state of the article - by Nov 28, 2011 - is clearly below the academic standard required by Wikipedia.

The content of the article does not separate linguistics from extralinguistic topics (such as politics, history, etc), and the result is confusing.

Specifically - the information lack of accuracy and/or of background explanations, which make implicit information not understandable. - in such a linguistics article, dialectology concepts should (speech grouping along linguistic facts) should prevail on political concepts (curb the presentation to illustrate political goals such as the unity of Jordan). - Wikipedia is not the place for a language course. Phonetic description should therefore not trace to English speakers, but rather to international standards such as phoneme names or IPA transcription. - Scientific references lack severely

What is more worrying is that attempts at raising the academic level are leveled out by contributors who cancel large parts of the improvements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurayshi (talk • contribs) 10:36, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

iso 639-3 code not precise

The info box at the beginning of the article states that ajp is the iso 639-3 code for Jordanian Arabic. This is only true in so far as ajp (South Levantine Arabic, see Levantine Arabic) is the 'closest' code available. The article on Lebanese Arabic - where the sitation is the same - does not list an iso 639-3 code. Mirkovogel (talk) 10:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

new source

This journal article might be useful. Zero^talk 03:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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'is quite the mixture' is really way too slangy for a serious Wikipedia article.86.61.108.100 (talk) 16:51, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Levantine Arabic FAC

Levantine Arabic has been nominated for FAC. Any feedback would be more than welcome :) A455bcd9 (talk) 14:57, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]