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Number of jokers per deck

How many jokers can have a card deck --84.61.26.54 10:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Depends, Modiano Poker Index has 2, Copag has 4, I believe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.2.218 (talk) 10:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merging articles

Should this article be merged with Joker? (also placed message on other talk page) -Tim 12:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like it as it is, standalone article. Well more than a dicdef. Does need sources though.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 13:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The Joker sometimes bears an S superimposed over a U, wrongly believed to be the original dollar sign." Great. it says what it isn't, but doesn't bother to say what it is. Effing fantastic. If anybody can correct this, much appreciated. --76.94.198.55 (talk) 06:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name

It is suggested in the article comes from Jucker. A joker is a jester, not surprising to be found in a royal court along with kings and queens, which seems a much more logical reason for the name, and its presence in a deck.--Jeffro77 (talk) 08:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Drawing

The drawing of a joker made me laugh but ultimately it should go (sorry).
If it's necessary to elaborate: sketches are generally only desirable where photographs are not available, or where a photo would be too specific, so an illustration is used to describe the general case. Or of course if the sketch is itself the very thing the article is about.
None of these apply here, and it just appears inappropriate. --MijinLaw (talk) 01:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The example of a joker playing card may be based upon a copyright image, you can see a scanned image at http://www.fooledya.com/jokers/page3.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GR8DAN (talk • contribs) 15:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As the original creator of the joker sketch, I thoroughly agree. I only ever intended it as a stopgap pending a better image being found and copyright concerns addressed. I'm glad to see this has now happened. Prosthetic Head (talk) 13:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 06:21, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

malicious edits

there have recently been two edits to this page that add incorrect/irrelevant/malicious URLs in place of the real link. i dont know much about using wikipedia so i have rolled back the change, i hope someone can confirm ive done it properly and perhaps lock this article. 2001:678:334:17:2FB6:C3AC:8A0:95CD (talk) 05:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent Type of English Usage

This article inconsistently uses both American and British English. I do not feel qualified to decide which should be used, but wanted to point out that this should probably be fixed once a consensus is reached about which should be used. BananaMan8128 (talk) 04:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Mistigris"

This word, "Mistigris," is said to be an early name for the Joker and cites a 1992 printing of A Dictionary of Card Games by David Sydney Parlett. However, the book is available on the internet archive, and the word "Mistigris" does not appear to be in it. What's more, CNRTL claims it's actually an alternative name for the Jack of Clubs, stemming from a trump card game of the same name. TimesChu (talk) 23:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

However, the word is found in The Complete Book of Games, on page 62, as an alternative name for a Joker. The book, unfortunately, does not cite a source for this. TimesChu (talk) 22:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Juckerspiel in german Speaking Countries and there never was!

The claim that Euchre originates from a German game called "Juckerspiel" has circulated widely. However, after thorough research into German card game traditions, it becomes evident that: No Historical Evidence Exists There is no mention of a game called "Juckerspiel" in any historical records, rulebooks, or card game encyclopedias from German-speaking countries. Neither is it referenced in any known dialects from regions like the Palatinate or Alsace, which are often linked to this claim. Unknown in German-Speaking Countries Even among German card game enthusiasts and historians, the term "Juckerspiel" is entirely unknown. There are no oral traditions, local customs, or regional variants resembling a game by this name. A Likely Misinterpretation The term "Juckerspiel" might have been retroactively constructed to explain the origins of Euchre, with the word "Jucker" (potentially derived from "Bauer," meaning "Jack") serving as a convenient link. However, this connection lacks verification in German sources. No Regional Connection The regions often mentioned as the origin of Juckerspiel, such as the Alsace or the Palatinate, have rich card-playing traditions. However, there is no evidence of any game resembling Euchre or using the name "Juckerspiel."

The "Juckerspiel" appears to be a myth or a misunderstood term, with no basis in the traditions of German-speaking countries. Euchre may have evolved from European card games, but its direct connection to a game called "Juckerspiel" remains unsubstantiated. Chrishalle82 (talk) 16:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]