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Should Fetterman Be Described as a Progressive?

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The intro specifically says that he is commonly referred to as a progressive but he has rejected this term in multiple interviews recently.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/-not-progressive-fetterman-breaks-left-israel-immigration-rcna129747

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/21/us/politics/john-fetterman-progressive-israel.html 68.46.25.44 (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the solution is to add a section called "Break from Progressivism" or something like that. He definitely identified as progressive, but has clearly changed his stance. --Sametinkles (talk) 03:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editorial Comments on Senators Health

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This article makes the allegation that right wing conspiracy theorists made comments that the Senator was replaced with a body double. I am failing to understand how the commentary that people have on someone's health, or presence or absence, has anything to do with the actual state of the Senator's health.

Someone is reverting this, so I'd like to get a topic going as to why the commentary of political groups about strange propositions has to do with the Senator's health.

I propose that the sentence in the "Health Section" which is "After Fetterman's discharge, right-wing conspiracy theorists spread a false theory that Fetterman had been replaced by a body double." be removed. It could be moved to a different section. This is not a factual, dispositive statement about his health. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve.A.Dore.4 (talkcontribs) 21:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Steve.A.Dore.4, that someone was me; don't be bashful about pinging an editor you are disagreeing with. No, this article does not "make the allegation"--that allegation is made in a number of highly reliable secondary sources. It seems you are trying to bolster your case by using highly circumlocutious language; I suggest you try to be concise and direct. For instance, there is no "commentary of political groups about strange propositions", but there was a political group (loosely defined) proposing a very strange thing, as is verified by these reliable sources. And what do you mean with "dispositive statement"? Drmies (talk) 21:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would agree the sentence should be removed, and perhaps moved to the article(s) of whoever (individual, group) is making the false body-double allegation. Yes, this nonsense made the news cycle and yes, it is well-sourced, and yes, it's fun to laugh at. But I don't see how adding it improves Fetterman's biography. In WP:TENYEARS are we really going to include this? BBQboffingrill me 00:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Drmies,
    I'm sorry to hear you don't like the way I phrased it. There was no attempt to employ language to increase the persuasiveness of the point.
    It seems to me that it should be removed, or added to a different section. It is an editorial statement that doesn't contribute to our understanding about his health.
    I'm also sorry to hear that your dissapointed that I didn't ping you. It seems like we have a going dialogue on this subject, so we can get to the bottom of this issue based on the consensus related approach that is one of Wikipedia's core tenants.
    Steve Steve.A.Dore.4 (talk) 16:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think this sentence undermines the credibility of wikipedia, and is an assault on this article and its legitimacy. This sentence is clearly designed to persuade. It is irrelevant and should be removed. Steve.A.Dore.4 (talk) 16:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2024

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Add to the political positions section his opposition to cruelty-free meat. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/5/8/24151435/john-fetterman-lab-grown-cultivated-meat-ron-desantis-florida-ban 203.211.79.75 (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did. 203.211.79.75 (talk) 11:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a section on lab-grown meat to the article. It's an interesting position taken by the Senator so worth including I think. (I understand that this edit request wasn't formatted correctly and this isn't a commentary on the decline). Dcpoliticaljunkie (talk) 14:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2024

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Akaganhamilton2 (talk) 01:20, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to make an edit about his policy on the Israel-Palestine conflict.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2024

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Fetterman will become Pennsylvania's senior senator when Bob Casey Jr. leaves office in 2025 following his defeat in the 2024 United States Senate election in Pennsylvania to David McCormick.

Here is the source needed: https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/ap-calls-pennsylvanias-us-senate-race-dave-mccormick-bob-casey-refuses-concede-0 5.42.206.146 (talk) 02:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A sound spelling, seriously?

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Why not have that for David Letterman? Just a different first letter. Do you really think this is a name people will have a hard time pronouncing? Get rid of it, no need for the condescension. 2600:4809:7270:F800:38A9:FE2F:2D37:C231 (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have it for David Letterman, probably since "letterman" is a common word used in high school or college sports. BBQboffingrill me 01:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BBQboffin Fetterman & Letterman perfectly rhyme, so again, a sound spelling is not needed. Get rid of it. 2600:4809:7270:F800:6909:3452:2B59:121C (talk) 20:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They do happen to rhyme, but words like detoxify and metonymy don't. English isn't everyone's first language and I don't see how it's "condescension" to include it. BBQboffingrill me 01:41, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BBQboffin You just admitted the names rhyme,so again, a sound spelling is not needed. 2600:4809:7270:F800:6909:3452:2B59:121C (talk) 13:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fettuccine is a word where we don't accent "fett" as the first syllable (fet-ə-CHEE-nee). BBQboffingrill me 17:26, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]