Talk:J. B. Hunt

very confusing!

We seem to have three distinct articles related to J B Hunt..

• http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Johnnie_Bryan_Hunt <-Biography
• http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/J._B._Hunt <-Biography
• http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/J.B._Hunt <-trucking company stub

This discussion page used to redirect to the J._B._Hunt discussion page, which was even more confusing!

I have no particular interest in the subject - I was just trying to find trucking company articles when I stumbled into this..

I suggest redirecting Johnnie_Bryan_Hunt to J._B._Hunt, and moving J.B._Hunt back to J._B._Hunt_Transport_Services (this is a fairly well know trucking company in the US). --Versageek 15:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

COI IPs

The IP range, 192.252.64.0 - 192.252.127.255, is assigned to J. B. Hunt Transport Inc. IPs from that block should be following conflict of interest guidelines here and on other trucking-related pages. Jojalozzo 17:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello!

I've been addressing the sourcing issue and formatting the article, can someone help me determine if is okay to remove it? is it okay? MasterWikiEdit (talk) 22:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I've just removed it. I am not admin but I think its well sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tacomanao (talk • contribs) 16:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree, that template was a little old. MasterWikiEdit (talk) 21:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Making the article accurate

In representation of J.B. Hunt, we would like to have an accurate and clean article. With referenced content, we attempted to make the edits ourselves but it has been impossible, we think the edits weren't entirely promotional and to be fair we were looking for accuracy. For example, we want to give merit to johnelle hunt as a founder, J.B. Hunt is a Fortune 500, S&P 500, and NASDAQ-100 company none of it is mentioned, the company currently employs more than 27,000 employees, operates more than 15,000 trucks, contracts with more than 60,000 third-party carriers, and maintains more than 128,000 trailers and containers in the company's fleet (this is updated data), the Million Mile Walk of Fame is the long-standing company tradition, and the company has developed a new application that is innovative in the industry called J.B. Hunt 360. These are a few of the points we would like to be added and that would add truth to the article. How shall we proceed to fix the article tags and expand the company available information? @DGG:@SamHolt6:

• https://www.worldcat.org/title/jb-hunt-the-long-haul-to-success/oclc/24794029
• https://www.newsweek.com/green-rankings-2017-18/j-b-hunt-transport-services-inc
• https://thetrucker.com/53-j-b-hunt-drivers-feted-as-million-mile-celebration/
• https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-b-hunt-builds-up-the-last-mile-11547035201
• https://www.ttnews.com/articles/jb-hunt-plans-invest-500-million-disruptive-supply-chain-tech
• https://digital.hbs.edu/platform-rctom/submission/j-b-hunt-leading-the-way-into-the-age-of-digitized-trucking/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Simpleman2.3 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Those edits were made by blocked sock puppets. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:30, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

proposed changes

• Information to be added: I will like to include three new sections to have expand the company article
  

Extended content

1. Corporate identity J.B. Hunt is a company focused on efficiency to improve sustaniability reducing their carbon footprint, by optimizing loads, the company decreases empty miles for drivers and improves overall route efficiency. J.B. Hunt’s strategic advantage derives from the company’s ability to offer multi-faceted solutions. Loads are often converted from over-the-road truckload to intermodal. Aerodynamic, fuel efficient and/or electric trucks are also used to create green plans for customers. Recently, J.B. Hunt reserved several Tesla electric trucks and added the first-ever, all-electric box trucks to its fleet. Also, safety is one of J.B. Hunt’s core values and part of its corporate culture. In addition to complying with industry-relevant laws and mandates, J.B. Hunt makes its contribution to public road safety in a variety of ways—driver training, drug testing, and investing in technologies to make drivers and equipment safer. Since 2006, J.B. Hunt has used hair testing during pre-employment screenings in addition to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) mandated urine testing. Hair testing offers a longer detection window, which typically proves to be more reliable in detecting lifestyle drug users. Both hair and urine tests are also administered to drivers on a random basis. All drivers are also trained and certified in Smith System, a comprehensive driver safety training program, and are periodically re-certified. Since 1996, the company has given nearly $27 million in bonuses to nearly 3,500 drivers with at least 1 million safe miles, the drivers that achieve this milestone are honored with Million Mile Walk of Fame, a long-standing company tradition where employees line four flights of stairs to congratulate the drivers with applause and high-fives. 2.Recognition and Awards Being one of the biggest and oldest transport company in the US, it has been recognized by several institutions: Named One of America's Best Employers by Forbes Fortune 500 List Earned SmartWay Award from the EPA for several Consecutive Years Named Top 75 Green Supply Chain Partner by Inbound Logistics Named 2019 Military Friendly Employer by VIQTORY for Twelfth Consecutive Year 3. Executive leadership As of December 10, 2019, the following individuals are the executives of the company: James Kirk Thompson – Chairman of the Board John Roberts – President and CEO David Mee – EVP, Finance and Admin, and CFO Terrence Matthews – EVP, President of Intermodal Alfred Craig Harper – EVP, Chief Operations Officer Shelley Simpson – EVP, Chief Commercial Officer, and President of Highway Services Nicholas Hobbs – EVP, President of Dedicated Contract Services Stuart Lockard Scott – EVP, Chief Information Officer Explanation of issue: J.B. Hunt Transport Services, Inc. being a recognized company in the US, I would like to update and expand their information. References

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SamanthaSwiss (talk • contribs) 16:05, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Reply 13-DEC-2019

  Edit request declined  

• The requested changes are overtly promotional in tone, and reflect the company's own description of itself and its aspirations, rather than a neutral description as required by policy (WP:NPOV, WP:NOTPROMO).
• The COI editor is reminded of the need to sign all posts left on talk pages.

Regards,  Spintendo  19:58, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Latest changes

• Question: I've added an operation section, cleaned up tone and attempted to source everything properly per WP:BOLD but I want to ask if you think it is properly source. I know that in WP:COI I am very strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly but I've kept my edits to fixing wikilinks, references and besides the operation section and the deletion of information that I felt that read like marketing, the article is basicly the same. I took extra care to write without bias and I won't do it again. Thanks
• Explanation of issue: I want to fix citation and advertising maintenance tags.

SamanthaSwiss (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply 13-JAN-2020

  Edit request partially implemented  

• The advert maintenance template has been removed, along with descriptions which featured merely company minutiae.

Regards,  Spintendo  01:24, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

New operations section

Information to be added
1. New Operations section: J.B Hunt is organized into four segments: Intermodal (JBI), Dedicated Contract Services (DCS), Integrated Capacity Solutions (ICS), and Truckload (JBT). Each segment offer a different typo of service, JBI segment offers intermodal freight solutions and delivery services. The DCS segment designs, develops, and executes supply-chain solutions. The ICS segment offers traditional freight brokerage and transportation logistics solutions and logistics management for customers that look to outsource their transportation functions. The JBT segment offers full-load and dry-van freight services.
Explanation of issue
Expanding the article.

References

References

SamanthaSwiss (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply 26-JAN-2020

  Edit request declined  

• It is not Wikipedia's purpose to give an accounting of a company's divisions. A directory of these divisions is better handled when given by the company itself on their own website, a link to which is given in the Wikipedia article.

Regards,  Spintendo  23:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

FEB edits

Information to be added
1. Brief operation section like Hub Group has. This would be straightforward and informative 'J.B Hunt is organized into four segments: Intermodal (JBI), Dedicated Contract Services (DCS), Integrated Capacity Solutions (ICS), and Truckload (JBT). '
2. The history section could be complemented by adding the information about J.B Hunt freight technology platform J.B. Hunt 360: ' In November 2014, J.B. Hunt Transport implemented a transportation management software, called J.B. Hunt 360, capable of integrating shipment management over multiple transit types.'
Explanation of issue
Facts about the company that might be worth mentioning.

Request:
Is it possible to remove the maintenance tags? the citation tags doesn't seem to really apply in this case because the article has several significant coverage on and off wiki, and the UPE was included before several independent editors cleaned up the article, most of the article was checked and editted by independent editors.

THANKSSamanthaSwiss (talk) 00:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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Reply 9-FEB-2020

  Edit request declined  

1. The {{UPE}} template was apparently applied in response to the article being edited by the Josher8a sockfarm. The COI editor has stated that these materials which were added have been removed from the article, but has failed to provide diffs of those edits. Please provide diffs which demonstrate that the material which was added by UPE's has been removed from the article.
2. As previously stated, an accounting of the divisions of the company is already handled by the company's own website, a link to which exists in the article. Furthermore, the sources provided for the prose which was requested to be added to the article do not originate from reliable, independent, WP:SECONDARY sources.
3. The argument that the article has received WP:SIGCOV would apply to a {{notability}} maintenance template, if one were to be attached to the article. The current version does not contain this template. SIGCOV does not apply to either the {{UDP}} nor the {{more citations needed}} templates.

Regards,  Spintendo  02:40, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Notes

Reply

Information to be added

1. The history section could be complemented by adding the information about J.B Hunt freight technology platform J.B. Hunt 360: ' In November 2014, J.B. Hunt Transport implemented a transportation management software, called J.B. Hunt 360, capable of integrating shipment management over multiple transit types.'
Explanation of issue
Facts about the company that might be worth mentioning.

Request:
Is it possible to remove the maintenance tags?
Citation tags doesn't seem to really apply, the overview of the article should be well sourced taking in consideration Marvin Schwartz's book where he describes the early development of the company, and the history section is sourced too by the new york times and JOC, plus it is really brief and there isn't much to talk about.
You are right, looking into the article's edits history the {{UPE}} was added in response to the article being edited by the Josher8a sockfarm. Looking more onto it looks like the last edit by the farm was on October 18 2019 by Legen-dary (http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=J._B._Hunt&diff=next&oldid=921855630), after that the article was cleaned up by DGG and was then further edited by what I think are independent editors. There is no trace of any paid edit or publicity on the article.

Question:
I know that an accounting of the divisions of the company is already handled by the company's own website but Wikipedia being an encyclopedia should describe the company. By that logic Wikipedia shouldnt exist (specially companies articles) because most information is already written in books, articles and their own websites. So, why shouldn't the J.B. Hunt wikipage have a description or even a mention of the company operations? readers come to wikipedia not looking to go to any website.
THANKS
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SamanthaSwiss (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Reply 17-FEB-2020

  Unable to implement  

• Please provide references from reliable, independent, WP:SECONDARY sources for this claim. The only reliable source provided was the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, which as a local paper reporting on a local company, would not be considered independent.
• Please provide WP:DIFFS of the changes which removed sockfarm content.

Regards,  Spintendo  13:59, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

New section proposal

Information to be added
=== Corporate responsibility === ==== Sustainability ==== The company uses load optimization software systems to decrease empty miles for drivers and GHG emission improving overall route efficiency. J.B. Hunt also reserved several Tesla electric trucks and added the first-ever, all-electric box trucks to its fleet. In 2019, the company received the SmartWay Excellence Award from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency(EPA) for the 10th consecutive year.

==== Safety ==== J.B. Hunt has an extensive screening process for drivers. Driver applicants undergo background screenings and road tests. Since 2006, J.B. Hunt has used hair testing during pre-employment screenings in addition to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) mandated urine testing. Hair testing offers a longer detection window. All drivers are also trained and certified in Smith System, a comprehensive driver safety training program, and are periodically re-certified. Training is an ongoing process for J.B. Hunt drivers.
Explanation of issue
Article expansion to mention the company environmental and safety standards.

THANKS, happy quarantine
References

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SamanthaSwiss (talk) 23:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Reply 2-MAY-2020

  Unable to implement  

• The request contains portions of text which are unreferenced (mostly in the Safety section). All unique claims made in the article ought to be referenced. Bundling the references at the end of the paragraph is not advised (per WP:INTEGRITY).

Regards,  Spintendo  16:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Information to be added
=== Corporate responsibility === ==== Sustainability ==== The company uses load optimization software systems to decrease empty miles for drivers and GHG emission improving overall route efficiency. J.B. Hunt also reserved several Tesla electric trucks and added the first-ever, all-electric box trucks to its fleet. In 2019, the company received the SmartWay Excellence Award from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency(EPA) for the 10th consecutive year.

==== Safety ==== Since 2006, J.B. Hunt has used hair testing during pre-employment screenings in addition to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) mandated urine testing. Hair testing offers a longer detection window. All drivers are also trained and certified in Smith System, a comprehensive driver safety training program, and are periodically re-certified. Training is an ongoing process for J.B. Hunt drivers.
Explanation of issue
Updated the request to match the claims with the sources on the safety section. Also, added the exact book page where J.B. Hunt Alcohol and Urine tests are covered.

THANKS
References

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by SamanthaSwiss (talk • contribs) 23:05, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

 Note: SamanthaSwiss I'm currently in progress of reviewing your COI edit request. However, the safety section contains close paraphrasing from https://www.jbhunt.com/company/investor_relations/esg/public-safety/. That will be Rejected on sight. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 23:22, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

REPLY 7-MAY-2020

 Declined The first section regarding the first sentence was unable to be verified. With the accompying web source, does it explicitly state that is uses load optimization software, or is this original research? The 2nd section I've explained above; it's a copyvio. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 00:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Moved from User talk:Can I Log In § My Talk:J. B. Hunt request

Hello, I am here to explain myself and reply to your comments. About the first section, In the book Trucking in the Age of Information Chelsea White covers J.B. Hunt technology use for their load optimization. I cannot share with you the book but I can send you the link to a paragraph in the 2nd chapter of the book that I think will suffice.

About the second section, I understand and I was not aware I was violating copyrights but the information is correct. Allow me to rephrase:

==== Safety ====

J.B. Hunt has implemented hair testing for all pre-employment tests since May 2006, in addition to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) mandated urine testing. Hair testing can detect prior drug usage for up to 90 days. Drivers are also trained and certified in the safety training program Smith System, the company understand that the drivers' education is paramount to reduce accidents and save lives.

Thanks, let me know your opinion.

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SamanthaSwiss (talk) 21:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I am just asking about your username. It is a bit odd. Could you explain why you chose that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneillge2029 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I'll take a look at this soon (within 24 hours). {{replyto|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 22:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

REPLY 8-MAY-2020

​ Implemented {{replyto|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 22:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

New corporate affairs section

Information to be added

Corporate affairs

Operations

The company's operations are distributed in four business segments to enable it to provide surface transportation and delivery services in the continental United States, Canada, and Mexico. The segments are Intermodal (JBI), Dedicated Contract Services (DCS), Integrated Capacity Solutions (ICS), and Truckload (JBT), each segment offers different services and transportation methods to customers. The following tables summarize financial data by segment (in millions $):

Segments	2019	2018	2017	2016	2015	2014
JBI	4,745	4,717	4,084	3,796	3,665	3,687
DCS	2,695	2,163	1,719	1,533	1,451	1,394
ICS	1,348	1,335	1,025	852	699	718
JBT	389	417	378	388	386	386
Total revenues	9,177	8,632	7,206	6,569	6,201	6,185
Investments eliminations	(12)	(17)	(16)	(14)	(13)	(20)
Total	9,165	8,615	7,190	6,555	6,188	6,165

Executive management

As of May 15, 2020 the management of J.B. Hunt Transport Services, Inc. includes:

• Kirk Thompson (Chairman of the Board)
• John N. Roberts (President and CEO)
• John Kuhlow (Interim CFO)
• Nicholas Hobbs (EVP, President of Dedicated Contract Services)
• Stuart Scott (EVP, CIO)
• Darren Field (EVP, President of Intermodal)
• Shelley Simpson (EVP, CCO, and President of Highway Services)
• Alfred Craig Harper (EVP, COO)

Explanation of issue
ADD corporate affairs section.

THANKS
References

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 Not done: The table probably doesn't go in per WP:NOTSTATS. The executive board probably has some regular changes and if the only source is the company's website then it's probably not particularly significant. Not even the chairman or the CEO have an article so a listing of non-notable persons probably doesn't go in either. A request for updating the financial information in the infobox could probably be accepted, but I see that already appears to be up-to-date so no change required there either. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 17:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: Hello, The executive board has many sources (I find excessive to use an article to source each one) I just thought getting this information directly from the company would be the most reliable and up to date, I was aiming to do something like this Apple_Inc.#Board_of_directors (they also use their official page to source the board) although none of jbht executives has his own article I think that it would still enhance the article to mention them. The financial information is up to date but the company has four business sections that are not specified in the article yet, might be good to provide information on these for the readers as each business section is widely followed online because of the stock market. I see that WP:NOTSTATS encourages to use tables to lay out statistic correctly, not the other way around. I don't get why they wouldn't go in per WP:NOTSTATS. Thanks SamanthaSwiss (talk) 03:01, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

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@SamanthaSwiss: I am not saying that the company's website is not reliable. I am saying that it is not independent and that it is a primary source (which is different, see here). We prefer independent, secondary, sources because they help establish the importance of the information: after all, an encyclopedia is supposed to be a summary of the most important important - if the only source for the information is the company's website (or a databse), then it might be interesting, but it is probably but a footnote in the company's history (also, we must consider requirements for the information to be presented in a neutral way. Usually, it's also preferred to only lists individuals if they have their own Wikipedia page, see the usual criteria for that. NOTSTATS suggests that "Statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing; accordingly, statistics should be placed in tables to enhance readability, and articles with statistics should include explanatory text providing context. [emphasis mine]" If there could be some sources which explain what is behind those numbers, that would be great, however if I might point out even very well known companies such as Apple usually only have only a summary look at this information (and as you can see, that information is also backed up with plenty of analysis from independent sources, such as reputable newspapers). In any case, investors should know better than to look on Wikipedia for stock market information (see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source). On second though, I see no problem with the following:

The company's operations are distributed in four business segments to enable it to provide surface transportation and delivery services in the continental United States, Canada, and Mexico.

But I'm not quite sure where this might best go. Hopefully this clarifies matters. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 02:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC) edited 03:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC) p.s. I can't see the joc.com page (paywall) so I have no clue what it is about

@RandomCanadian: Thanks for clarifying.

For now lets just update the overview to mention the business sections. Changing
J.B. Hunt primarily operates large semi-trailer trucks and provides transportation services throughout the continental U.S., Canada and Mexico
to
J.B. Hunt's operations are distributed in four business segments to enable it to provide surface transportation and delivery services in the continental United States, Canada, and Mexico
Question: I was told before (Talk:J._B._Hunt#New_operations_section) this a directory of these divisions is better handled when given by the company itself on their own website, a link to which is given in the Wikipedia article. I was wondering I could rewrite the section to describe the company services in a neutral way without wandering off Wikipedia encyclopedic purposes. Thanks SamanthaSwiss (talk) 19:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

 Partly done: I have added the information, though I tried to get rid of the corporate jargon (and I removed some redundant phrasing). Since there's commentary stating the "2/3 of revenues came from intermodal", it seems appropriate to mention there are other divisions. Tell me if there's anything wrong in how I have rewritten it. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 19:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)