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It looks like an edit was recently made that added back a significant amount of bad references to page. Let's go through each of these individually. I'd like to keep the discussion civil, so let's not accuse other editors of vandalism without providing supporting evidence.

I'd first like you to read the page on Verifiability.

Almost every single source supplied makes no mention of interpassivity. Where they do, they are self-published, and do not support the claims made. Remember that "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves". That is not the context that the sources are used in here. In addition, some of the self-published sources are impossible to verify ghost sources. Just because content predates the internet does not make it an acceptable citation to use when it is impossible to a find a copy. See http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiable,_not_verified

Furthermore, because your edits contain allegations of work done by Frank Schreiner (Stiletto), it is subject to the higher set of standards set for content about living people. Although some of the sources contain content written by Schreiner, none of them contain information about interpassivity. Because of the nature of the content, I am reverting the article immediately without waiting for discussion per policy. Please do not revert or add content back about Schreiner without supplying reliable secondary sources.

  • Source 1: Atlas of Furniture Design

Piece about Stiletto's shopping cart chair. No mention of interpassivity. Fails verficiation.

  • Source 2: Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum

Contains a link to three pieces that Stiletto has created. Clicking through them reveals no references to interpassivity. No mention that Stiletto was the first to use it. Fails verification.

  • Source 3: "100 Objects from Century of the Child" Tumblr Post

Is a self-published source. Notes that Stiletto worked on a shopping cart art piece. No mention of interpassivity. No mention that Stiletto was the first to use it. Fails verification.

  • Source 4: Berlin, les avant-gardes du mobilier

Is an event advertisement. Primary source. Again shows Stiletto worked on a shopping cart piece. No mention of interpassivity. No mention that Stiletto was the first to use it. Fails verification.

  • Source 5: AdA Object Talk: Stiletto, Short Rest

Primary source. A few paragraphs written by Stiletto about his shopping cart piece. No mention of interpassivity. No mention that Stiletto was the first to use it. Fails verification.

Self-published PDF. Random work by Stiletto. No mention of interpassivity. Fails verification.

Self-published PDF. More random work by Stiletto. No mention of interpassivity. Fails verification.

  • Source 8: "The Test Picture as an Interpassive Communication Service" in: Durchblick No. 11, Journal of the open channel Offener Kanal Berlin, II/1994

Self-identified as a primary source. Not authoritative to say that Stiletto was the first to use the term. Is an unacceptable ghost citation, thus fails verification.

  • Source 9: "Stefan Meyer: 'Wirrtuelle Realität', Zitty 6/1994, Berlin"

Another ghost citation; fails verification.

  • Source 10: X 94 - Young Art and Culture, Stiletto Studio's: The "Blue Milk Channel", pp. 122 - 123, Akademie der Künste, Berlin, 1994, ISBN 3-929139-56-1

Another primary source. I assume this source, like all of the other sources (which at this point are almost maliciously unverifiable), has no mention of Interpassivity. If you strongly believe that this source mentions interpassivity, I will gladly purchase a copy of the book and self-verify.

  • Source 11: LETTER FROM FLORIAN CRAMER TO STEWART HOME OF 25/10/95

Primary source. No mention of Interpassivity. Self-published.

  • Source 12: 182. Sideways Couch

Primary source. Self-published, self-dated, thus fails verification. The first source to mention interpassivity. Is a recounting of watching TV, noting that it's what Stiletto would've called "interpassive TV". Not an acceptable citation to support the claims on the page, either.

  • Source 13: tENTATIVELY, a cONVENIENCE on the notion of interpassivity in a book review of Florian Cramer's book "Anti-Media"

Self-published, self-dated book review. Thus fails verification. The book that is the subject of the review might be the first decent source here, if it mentions interpassivity. The only mention of interpassivity is in the review, where the reviewer mentions that Stiletto "probably" coined the term.

  • Source 14: Description of the interpassive installation in the German Wikipedia entry on Stiletto under Stiletto (artist)#Life and Stiletto (artist)#Exhibition design, art project developments, installations, and curatorial activities (selection)

Uses a Wikipedia article as a citation. Not an acceptable source. I've gone through the trouble of visiting the DE wiki page for Stiletto, which cites another ghost source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shimunogora (talk • contribs) 05:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I came to this page looking for a source that "liking" or sharing something on Facebook is an example of interpassivity. I've heard this from Zizek I believe but I can't remember where. One of his talks on YouTube, I think, where he said that we are interpassive by sharing stories about atrocities in third-world countries to raise awareness of them. I think he also called recycling interpassive. Does anyone know of a source for this? Thanks, Jonah Dempcy 98.237.252.162 (talk) 23:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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