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A fact from Hurricane Agatha appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 June 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hurricane Agatha was the strongest Pacific hurricane to make landfall in Mexico in May since records began in 1949?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hurricane Agatha.

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Tropical Storm Alex

In the future, when Alex forms and impact Florida, will Alex will merge into a list of two related storms (like Tropical storms Amanda and Cristobal 2020)? Thingofme (talk) 10:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No we don't merge into two if they merge it could cause confused the reader, also Agatha set record to be one the strongest hurricane to make landfall along the Pacific coast of Mexico in the month of May.^[1]^[2] please see some article here which is similar here. Hurricane Grace and Hurricane Barbara (2013) and Tropical Storm Andrea (2013) HurricaneEdgar 11:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because Amanda and Cristobal can be similar in size, but Agatha and (future Alex), we have Agatha is stronger, but (future Alex) would be only a tropical storm, so we can't merge - two separate articles? Thingofme (talk) 13:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes we can't merge into one article. HurricaneEdgar 13:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And also I believe that this is not same storm The NHC noted that they are partially related to remnant of Agatha. ^[3] ^[4] HurricaneEdgar 14:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent TWO mention of the disturbance near the Yucatan being partially related to the remnants of Agatha was 8pm yesterday (Tuesday). Therefore, it would appear that the area of disorganized showers and thunderstorms now being monitored over the Caribbean/Yucatan is not related. Drdpw (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The primary reason for combining Amanda and Cristobal's articles is that their impacts in Mexico were essentially one continuous event and splitting the impact into two articles would not be feasible as reliable sources often did not make the distinction (and even if so it wasn't consistent across sources). There has yet to be significant impact in Mexico attributed to PTC 1, hence a similar "two systems one article" scenario isn't going to happen. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 09:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

^ Samenow, Jason (May 30, 2022). "Agatha strikes Mexico as its strongest May hurricane". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on May 31, 2022. Retrieved May 31, 2022.
^ Cortes, Jose (May 31, 2022). "Hurricane Agatha lashes southern Mexico with rain as record-breaking May storm". Reuters. Archived from the original on May 31, 2022. Retrieved May 31, 2022.
^ https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/xgtwo/gtwo_archive.php?current_issuance=202205312344&basin=atl&fdays=2
^ https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/xgtwo/gtwo_archive.php?current_issuance=202205311731&basin=atl&fdays=2

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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ALT0... that Hurricane Agatha was the strongest hurricane to make landfall in May in the eastern Pacific since records began in 1949? Source: Washington Post, KTLA 75 (Associated Press), Reuters, NBC News NESDIS NOAA

*ALT1: ... Hurricane Agatha was the strongest landfall anywhere in the Eastern Pacific coast during the month of May since records began in 1949? Source: Washington Post

Created by HurricaneEdgar (talk). Self-nominated at 03:50, 4 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Note. DYK credit tool says you are exempt from the DYK requirement for quid pro quo, but for the future, do not post the article being reviewed as "Reviewed", because that's the field where you are supposed to present proof you are actually both submitting articles for review and making them yourself. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 09:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Szmenderowiecki, thank for your feedback, in the future i will not do again since this is my first DYK nomination. HurricaneEdgar 09:44, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: It should be somehow clarified that said strongest landfall pertains to the Eastern Pacific coastline. (I know it is 'typhoons' in the western Pacific, but may as well be precise.) Also, was it definitely the strongest landfall anywhere in the eastern Pacific/American west coast, or just in Mexico? Because the sources seem to be split down the middle on this particular point. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneEdgar: I've suggested an alternative wording/sentence structure (much like in the AP piece). Let me know if that works for you. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:04, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, FYI, the first hook is ALT0, so the second is ALT1 and so forth - and if you want to add more, just add them directly below the first. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Iskandar323, I think that first hook ALT0 is better because they reword. HurricaneEdgar 13:13, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, great, thanks. Then I think it's good to go. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:18, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[:0-1] Samenow, Jason (May 30, 2022). "Agatha strikes Mexico as its strongest May hurricane". The Washington Post. Archived from the original on May 31, 2022. Retrieved May 31, 2022.

[2] Cortes, Jose (May 31, 2022). "Hurricane Agatha lashes southern Mexico with rain as record-breaking May storm". Reuters. Archived from the original on May 31, 2022. Retrieved May 31, 2022.

[3] ttps://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/xgtwo/gtwo_archive.php?current_issuance=202205312344&basin=atl&fdays=2

[4] ttps://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/xgtwo/gtwo_archive.php?current_issuance=202205311731&basin=atl&fdays=2

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