Talk:History of the Jews in England (1066–1290)

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Whitewashing and ethnic cleansing of English Jewish heritage

There is no grounds for extricating Jews from pre-1066 England. That is just more irrational, nazi-istic (Germanic mysticism) francophobia and obvious mark of xenophobia in general. England has Roman bishops, such as London, Lincoln and York, as well as the quasi-legit West Country Christian tradition of Glastonbury, which may or may not reveal something about a possible fourth bishop, in Corinium Dobunnorum, as the fourth provincial capital. Since Christianity is noted as having firm root in England since before Roman control was fully established, there is no way that Judaism could be proved to not also have a presence in such a time, when even far more exotic faiths, like that of Mithras, had a place in England, much like the find of a Buddha statue in Sweden during the viking age. Phoenicians were in England, so why discount Judaism? Antisemitism has no place in a non-revisionist, WP:NPOV Wikipedia. Catterick (talk) 08:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well can't you then source and add some material about pre-Conquest Judaism?

The lead just says "There is no evidence of Jews residing in England before the Norman Conquest...". It does NOT say there were no Jews, just that the ones documented were passing traders etc. There's probably not much evidence of there being lots of things (it's why we call it the Dark Ages) which is not to say they didn't exist, and we infer their existence from other things. I don't understand why this could be called antisemitic. There's no attempt here to prove there were no [resident] Jews, simply a statement there's no evidence that there were. THAT is easily challenged: find some sources. SimonTrew (talk) 15:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm looks like Catterick has retired. Seemed like rather a troll, looking through his edit history. Good job too, bye bye. I was trying to find the source of this disputed article business since I want to get rid of the warning if I can reasonably do so. Since nothing's on talk I think I'll just do it. SimonTrew (talk) 15:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What strikes me is the statement that "Gallo-Jewish slave-traders, who imported English slaves to the Roman market and thus brought about the Christianizing of England." Did the English slaves send letters back home, praising Christianity, and thus Christianizing England? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erga (talk • contribs) 12:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work

Several of the passages of this text are derivative works of public domain material. I have placed citations first. I will look for the public domain marker to place on the page also.Jim Killock (talk) 04:50, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Single source notice

Hi @Barbicanf:, is the single source needed? For context, although a lot of this article derives from a single public domain source, that itself was quite well sourced, although in an academic rather than Wikipedia fashion. Other articles (initially) derived from a public domain article are not normally targeted as insufficiently sourced. However, as people added more content, it became unclear what was derived from what, so I added references to make it clear. The article in question is cited at the foot of the article. Jim Killock (talk) 21:21, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JimKillock: I removed the tag after glancing at the foot of the article and seeing multiple sources. I arrived here when searching on "the King's Jews", incidentally, the first hit was the book I assume is the single source mentioned. ~ cygnis insignis 07:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]