Talk:Harlequin (Lady Gaga album)
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Studio album or soundtrack album?
[edit]ahould Harlequin be considered a soundtrack album in the same sense as Madonna's I'm Breathless or Beyonce's The Gift? Both of those projects were companions to films 2601:140:9001:4510:CD2A:6DF3:FAD5:1DAF (talk) 02:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- I personally think it should be considered a soundtrack album, as it is a companion album of songs from the film as well as songs inspired by the film, which fits the definition of a soundtrack album. It is very similar to I'm Breathless, Madonna's companion album for Dick Tracy which was categorized as a soundtrack album while the film also had its own soundtrack album as well.Flabshoe1 (talk) 16:18, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another example: Beyoncé's album, The Lion King: The Gift, is considered a soundtrack album for The Lion King (2019), even though that film had its own soundtrack album too. AG202 (talk) 05:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that it should be listed as solely a soundtrack album, and not a studio album, similarly to I'm Breathless, The Lion King: The Gift (as mentioned above by users), Black Panther: The Album and Suicide Squad: The Album. This isn't the same as the Purple Rain album, in which the film and album were both made specifically as companions. — Artmanha (talk) 17:48, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- The soundtrack album article offers a definition by BBC: 'By convention, a soundtrack record can contain any kind of music including music "inspired by" but not actually appearing in the movie.' The album is generally associated with the film and referred to as a 'companion album' to Joker. Based on this, I think we can assume it is a soundtrack of sorts. ArturSik (talk) 00:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Lady Gaga was in Kimmel last night and she specifically said it's NOT a soundtrack and is just inspired by her experience making the movie. 96.253.20.151 (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't she say its not THE soundtrack of the album? She never specified that it's not a soundtrack of some kind. Read here: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-happy-mistake-performance-kimmel-1235121340/ Kirtap92 (talk) 07:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- She said it was a concept record. It doesnt say Joker anywhere on it, she was inspired to write and perform the album based on her experience making the movie. Outside of that it has nothing to do with the movie. It should be under her studio albums. 96.253.20.151 (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Didn't she say its not THE soundtrack of the album? She never specified that it's not a soundtrack of some kind. Read here: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-happy-mistake-performance-kimmel-1235121340/ Kirtap92 (talk) 07:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Lady Gaga was in Kimmel last night and she specifically said it's NOT a soundtrack and is just inspired by her experience making the movie. 96.253.20.151 (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- The soundtrack album article offers a definition by BBC: 'By convention, a soundtrack record can contain any kind of music including music "inspired by" but not actually appearing in the movie.' The album is generally associated with the film and referred to as a 'companion album' to Joker. Based on this, I think we can assume it is a soundtrack of sorts. ArturSik (talk) 00:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think the album should be categorised as both a soundtrack album and studio album. It does share similarities with other "music from and inspired by the film" soundtrack projects (particularly the aforementioned I'm Breathless); quoting Gaga: "It’s a companion album for the film, so it has so much of the music that’s in Joker, as well as some original pieces that I wrote for the film."[1] The album was also promoted as a Lady Gaga project (LG 6.5). Theknine2 (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that it should be listed as solely a soundtrack album, and not a studio album, similarly to I'm Breathless, The Lion King: The Gift (as mentioned above by users), Black Panther: The Album and Suicide Squad: The Album. This isn't the same as the Purple Rain album, in which the film and album were both made specifically as companions. — Artmanha (talk) 17:48, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another example: Beyoncé's album, The Lion King: The Gift, is considered a soundtrack album for The Lion King (2019), even though that film had its own soundtrack album too. AG202 (talk) 05:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Release date for CD and Vinyl outside US
[edit]According to her official online shops and Universal music online shops outside US, the release date for the CD and vinyls is 11 October, being US the only country where the album will theoretically be shipped by September 27. Thus, I think this should be noted in the release section, specifying that the release date of the physicals is 27 Sept only for US and 11 Oct for the rest of the world. Nympho 87 (talk) 06:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Album genre
[edit]The album is classified as pop on streaming and music services [Source 1], [Source 2].
The artist refers to it as a "vintage pop" album. According to the second paragraph of the entry: Described by Gaga as "vintage pop", Harlequin consists of songs featured on the film's soundtrack, as well as two original songs with different a production. It expands on Gaga's venture into jazz music, also including elements of rock, soul, gospel and doo-wop in its composition. [Source 3]
There seems to be a fan-driven debate attempting to reclassify the album as jazz, which does not align with its actual genre. 2804:29B8:50B0:1E83:60BE:CA8A:4582:A44C (talk) 02:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Why is it classified as edm and dance on here? There are no electronic or dance songs. 47.205.7.29 (talk) 20:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- That was a vandalization done by 5.173.190.5. 2804:29B8:50B0:1E83:6088:9A8A:7F27:8F5D (talk) 20:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Can any moderator edit this page with these accurate sources? 150.165.144.21 (talk) 11:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Page protection
[edit]I think the page should be protected and restricted from IP users editing. There are some users who keep reverting edits without considering the discussions happening in the talk page, and some are even vandalizing it. What do you think? — Artmanha (talk) 14:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- ^ https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-harlequin-original-songs-she-wrote-joker-2-1235785383/.
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