Talk:Gudfred

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I had removed Category:Scyldings for this historical king, because no source was provided. Now this category was added again - again without a source. I am reverting. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 09:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I made a minor edit of this page to reflect the fact that the mouth of the Weser River is west of the Schlei. The Schlei is actually on the eastern side of Jutland, and the mouth of the Weser is well west of there in what is now German territory on the North Sea. So this section did, and still does, not make sense from a geographical standpoint. One doubts seriously that Charlemagne had a goal to protect the entire coast from the Schlei, on the eastern side of the Jutland Peninsula, to the mouth of the Weser.

    However, I am interested in the fact that the rise of the Vikings seems to be synchronistic with the conquest of the Saxons by Charlemagne in the very late 700's and his approach to what beca me Denmark.  I believe Widukind, the previous leader of the Saxons, had some relations with Danish elements, and may have taken refuge there at some time.  Nowhere else is such a Danish reaction to Charlemagne mentioned, ent I think some useful research into this whole period along the Danish-Carolignian Empire border might produce some signifi- cant insights to what currently is a little-discussed area of European history.

Daniel Sparkman (talk) 13:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Danevirke though widely accredited to Gudfed has been dated to 730's by dendochronology, while there is little doubt he strengthened the defences he is not responsible for them. See for one source of the top of my head Magnus Mangusons "the vikings" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.196.155.71 (talk) 15:09, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Desinformation: Viking invasion and viking fleet?

For some reason, some editor has used the term Viking invasion and viking fleet etc several times in the article, although they were never referred as such in the prime sources, this seems to be a case of history falsification and fabrication, unless someone can point to the prime source were those terms actually were used? Dan Koehl (talk) 22:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not desinformation. I reverted it according to multiple discussions on the same subject by this user and many other users reaction. This is a modern language version, and not Norse or Anglo-Saxon language. Adville (talk) 18:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gudfred = Gothfraidh Conung

As we know, in the irish chronicles there was a King, called "Gofraidh, King of Lochlann, son of Ragnall, Son of Gothfraidh Conung". It is very likely, that Ragnall is identical with Gudfred Son Ragnar. This is the prototype of Ragnar Lodbrok, because Halfdan was mentioned as "mac Ragnaill" in the irish anals, and also Ivar was called "son of lodparchus". Maybe was this Gothfraidh Conung the same as King Gudfred, what means that Ragnall is Gudfred Son Ragnar and Gofraid maybe a double of his grandfather. I also refer the fact, that Sigfred, the prototype of Sigurd Snake-in-The-Eye (+ 887) was menoited as "nephew" of "Heoric the dane". Saxo Grammaticus refers, that Horik II. was a son of Sigurd, and we know that Horik II was probaly not the son of Horik I, but a close relative. 2A02:8388:E2C1:6900:54F:830A:33EC:6B32 (talk) 18:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]