Talk:Great Fire of Saint John

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Requested move 29 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Participants were unable to reach a consensus about which elements (year, city, province) were necessary for disambiguating this page. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:50, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1877 Great Fire of Saint John, New Brunswick → Great Fire of Saint John – WP:BOLDLY, I feel as if the current title is way too long and removing the year and ", New Brunswick" frees up unneeded space.

There has been no other 'great fire' in 1877, and there has been no other significant fire event in any other usage for "Saint John" B3251 (talk) 19:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 00:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 02:58, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I feel like the year should be left at least, especially since this isn't a recent event, as otherwise it may be confused with some other fire that may happen in the city. Elfguy (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding on to this, the article name could be further shortened to Great Fire of 1877, (much like St. John’s, Newfoundland has with Great Fire of 1892) as it already redirects to this page. B3251 (talk) 23:54, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Saint John is a common name, as confirmed by a glance at the Saint John#Places disambiguation page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While Saint John is a relatively common place name, the city in New Brunswick is the most well-known geographical spot named “Saint John” (excluding St. John’s, as Newfoundland’s city is larger - however, the names are often very differentiated and easy to tell by their different uses of “Saint” and “St.” as well as whether there’s a “‘s” at the end). Adding on to this, Saint John in New Brunswick is the only place named “Saint John” specifically where a major fire event has happened.

Further comment, now noticing that the Great Fire of 1892 is used to title the major fire event in St. John’s, I’d be almost keen on renaming this to Great Fire of 1877 as it’s the only major fire event to happen that year plus it already redirects to the current article. B3251 (talk) 23:52, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Appears to be some discussion around moving to Great Fire of 1877 instead. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 00:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support move to Great Fire of Saint John. The year and the province in the current title are unneeded. There is only one notable Great Fire of Saint John, so the proposed title is not ambiguous. Indefatigable (talk) 04:25, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 16 September 2023

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The result of the move request was: Page moved to Great Fire of Saint John. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium (talk) 14:52, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1877 Great Fire of Saint John, New Brunswick → Great Fire of Saint John, New Brunswick – either this or Great Fire of Saint John. either way there's no notable "great fire of saint john" event; googling "great fire of saint john" only shows you results related to this fire, and the current name is way too long. B3251 (talk) 01:48, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support There is no other Great Fire of Saint John. My preference would be Great Fire of Saint John. Acebulf ^{(talk | contribs)} 20:58, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support, unnecessary disambiguation qualifier. Prefer without the province for the same reason (Great Fire of Saint John). Edward-Woodrow • talk 14:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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