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Updating History and organization section

Hello,

I'm a Global Strategy Group employee who has been tasked with updating the firm's article. I want to go about this the right way, so I'll be abundantly clear about my COI and will suggest edits rather than making direct changes to the GSG page. For my first request, I wanted to ask if editors would consider making changes to the History and organization section, which currently contains a few inaccuracies and informational gaps. It also lacks secondary sourcing, which I understand is important for substantiating claims on Wikipedia.

If you follow this link, it will take you to a subsection of my user page, where I have uploaded a revised section draft that I believe fixes these issues and improves the section overall. On that page, you will see: 1.) the current section; 2.) my revised section draft; and 3.) a list of all the changes I'm proposing, in the order they appear within the draft.

Please feel free to critique my draft. I've read up on Wikipedia's content guidelines and done my best to make sure all the language I've drafted aligns with it, but I'm obviously an interested party and understand that compromise might be necessary.

Thank you! ES at Global Strategy Group (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Reaching out to User:Drm310, to see if they would like to review my revised section draft. No pressure, Drm, but since you added my username to the top of this Talk page, I thought I would see if you're interested. ES at Global Strategy Group (talk) 13:56, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
I noticed that User:HeyElliott and User:Novo Tape recently edited the article, so I'm tagging them in here as well. If either editor would like to take a look at my proposed updates, I would very much appreciate it! ES at Global Strategy Group (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Reply 2-NOV-2023

Some observations from the COI editor's draft:

  1. The draft that was written was placed on a page that the COI editor ultimately controls. In the interests of transparency, edit requests should be made with the text being placed on the talk page of the article, so that it may act as a permanent record of the requests being made for future editors to see.
  2. The highlighting system that the draft uses is not at all helpful. At best, it does not do enough to draw attention to what is being changed between the two versions, and at worst, it acts as a hindrance to the reviewer being able to quickly identify the changes. (For example, by highlighting an entire paragraph — which the reviewer must now read through — when perhaps only three words were changed.)
  3. There are a handful of incidents where more than one reference is placed at the end of a sentence. This would normally indicate that both references verify everything in the sentence. Usually when that happens, it's best to let a single reference do the job by itself—preferably the stronger of the two. In circumstances where multiple references verify different elements within a single sentence, then the guidelines at WP:INTEGRITY should be followed. If this is how the references are handled in the article currently, and if it is the desire of the COI editor for the reviewer to simply carry over these multiple references (in essence, giving a second pass to a possible mistake that was given a pass the first time) then the draft, IMO is not approvable.
  4. There are instances in the proposed text where the subject organization acts as a reference for its own information. I see that this is merely the case because that is how the article's referencing is handled now. But as I said earlier, if the changes are to be implemented as a whole, and if those changes are to simply carry over problematic sourcing from the organization itself, then — from my perspective as the reviewer[a]—the request as a whole would not be approvable.
  5. I've made a general cleanup of the article, so the part of the COI editor's request where it gives the text "as it currently stands in the article" is no longer current.

The COI editor should feel free at their earliest convenience to submit future edit requests here on the talk page, taking care to ensure that they activate the {{Edit COI}} template whenever they are ready to proceed.

Notes

  1. ^ The reviewer carries responsibility for anything that is changed in the article. For example, if the request is to change only a single word in a sentence while leaving all the referencing alone, the reviewer now becomes responsible for that entire sentence and its referencing even though they only changed a single word. This is because a changed word doesn't sit alone. It impacts, — and conversely, is impacted by — everything around it

Regards,  Spintendo  13:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Revised History and organization request

Apologies for any confusion I created, User:Spintendo. Thanks for giving the article a once-over. I'll revise what I'm asking for and start a fresh request, so that I can work off your changes. In the History and organization, I'm seeking to accomplish the following:

  1. Clarify that GSG conducts "public opinion research" as opposed to "market research"
  2. Add that GSG has expanded into public relations, public affairs, and creative services over the course of its history
  3. Add some new satellite offices that GSG has opened since the last time this article was updated
  4. Add a paragraph that recaps some important developments in the firm's history over the last few years

In accordance with Spintendo's suggestion above, I've trimmed all superfluous references. There's now only one sentence—about GSG's expansion of services—that has two of them. That's because the CNBC piece substantiates that GSG is in the public relations business, and the O'Dwyer's one substantiates that the firm also works in public affairs and offers creative services. And I've left the primary source at the end of the sentence about GSG office locations. I know that we don't want to have GSG backing up lots of claims about itself, but in this one case I wonder if the firm can be considered a reliable source. I'll let independent editors determine that.

Here is a side-by-side of the current section and the changes I'm proposing:

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In 1995, GSG was founded by Jonathan Silvan (CEO), Jefrey Pollock (President), and Jeffrey Plaut (Partner) as a boutique polling firm. From its inception, GSG has conducted [[market research]] on behalf of its clientele, which include both political and corporate clients. In 2008, the firm's annual revenues were about $20 million, and it had 50 employees. In addition to its main offices in New York and [[Washington, D.C.]], GSG has offices in [[Chicago]], [[Denver]], [[Seattle]]; and [[Hartford, Connecticut]].
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In 1995, GSG was founded by Jonathan Silvan (CEO), Jefrey Pollock (President), and Jeffrey Plaut (Partner) as a boutique polling firm. From its inception, GSG has conducted [[Opinion poll|public opinion research]] on behalf of its clients. Its clients have included political, corporate, and nonprofit organizations. Over time, it has also developed public relations, public affairs, and creative services. In 2008, the firm's annual revenues were about $20 million, and it had 50 employees. In addition to its main offices in New York and [[Washington, D.C.]], GSG has offices in [[Chicago]], [[Denver]], [[Seattle]], [[Philadelphia]], [[Los Angeles]], [[Nashville, Tennessee|Nashville]]; and [[Hartford, Connecticut]]. In 2019, GSG recorded $33.4 million in revenue. That figure increased to $50.5 million the following year. In 2022, the Milan-based communications firm SEC Newgate acquired a significant stake in GSG. Following this acquisition, GSG continued to function independently, while using SEC Newgate's resources to expand its operations outside the United States. As of April 2022, GSG had approximately 150 employees.

If all my edits were implemented exactly as I'm proposing, the History and organization would look like this:

Extended content
In 1995, GSG was founded by Jonathan Silvan (CEO), Jefrey Pollock (President), and Jeffrey Plaut (Partner) as a boutique polling firm.[1] From its inception, GSG has conducted public opinion research on behalf of its clients.[4] Its clients have included political, corporate, and nonprofit organizations.[5] Over time, it has also developed public relations, public affairs, and creative services.[11][12] In 2008, the firm's annual revenues were about $20 million, and it had 50 employees.[4] In addition to its main offices in New York and Washington, D.C., GSG has offices in Chicago, Denver, Seattle, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Nashville; and Hartford, Connecticut.[13]
In 2019, GSG recorded $33.4 million in revenue. That figure increased to $50.5 million the following year.[9] In 2022, the Milan-based communications firm SEC Newgate acquired a significant stake in GSG. Following this acquisition, GSG continued to function independently, while using SEC Newgate's resources to expand its operations outside the United States.[10] As of April 2022, GSG had approximately 150 employees.[10]

References

  1. ^ a b c Confessore, Nicholas, "In Consulting Group's Rise, Hints of How Albany Works", The New York Times, September 29, 2008.
  2. ^ "Jefrey Pollock, 35, President, profiled in Crain's 40 under 40", quoting from a brief article in Crain's New York, retrieved September 29, 2008
  3. ^ "Locations". Global Strategy Group. Retrieved 2021-09-21.
  4. ^ a b c d "40 Under 40 Class of 2007". Crain's New York. 2007. Retrieved August 7, 2023.
  5. ^ a b Weatherhead, Alex (2022-03-10). "Meet the Pollsters Pushing Corporate Clients, Special Interests — and the Democrats". The Intercept. Retrieved 2022-03-13.
  6. ^ Palmer, Annie (2022-03-31). "Amazon hired an influential Democratic pollster to fight Staten Island union drive". CNBC. Retrieved 2022-04-01.
  7. ^ Barnes, Steve (March 25, 2021). "On the Move: Global Strategy Group Hires Lee for Storytelling". O'Dwyer's. Retrieved August 7, 2023.
  8. ^ "Locations". Global Strategy Group. Retrieved 2021-09-21.
  9. ^ a b "Global Top 250 PR Agency Rankings 2021". PRovoke Media. 2021. Retrieved August 7, 2023.
  10. ^ a b c d Marszalek, Diana (April 4, 2022). "SEC Newgate Buys "Significant Stake" in GSG". PRovoke Media. Retrieved August 7, 2023.
  11. ^ Palmer, Annie (2022-03-31). "Amazon hired an influential Democratic pollster to fight Staten Island union drive". CNBC. Retrieved 2022-04-01.
  12. ^ Barnes, Steve (March 25, 2021). "On the Move: Global Strategy Group Hires Lee for Storytelling". O'Dwyer's. Retrieved August 7, 2023.
  13. ^ "Locations". Global Strategy Group. Retrieved 2021-09-21.

I assume Spintendo will field this request, since they seem to have an interest in it, but any other independent editor is welcome to jump in as well. I'll be on standby for feedback.

Thanks, ES at Global Strategy Group (talk) 20:48, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@ES at Global Strategy Group I just want to say I really appreciate your revision of this request. It's much appreciated! I will take a look at this very shortly, or, if another editor gets to it sooner than that, perfect! Regards,  Spintendo  22:03, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 Done I kept the company source for the offices, but added the word "reports" to clarify that it is self reported. STEMinfo (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Appreciate it, User:STEMinfo. Just FYI, I've got a request for updating the New York State section below. If you'd like to take a look, please do. And if not, thanks for your help with the History. ES at Global Strategy Group (talk) 15:39, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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