Talk:Far-right politics in Germany (1945–present)

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Whitewash!

Having just read this article, I think it is an utter whitewash of the actual situation in Germany regarding Nazi/fascist elements within today's Germany. Let's face it: the Nazis didn't just 'go away' with the end of WWII. Yes, they lost–but after the war in W. Germany most Nazis carried on holding key top level positions in both the public and private sectors. As we can see now with the PEGIDA mass demonstrations throughout Germany, the deep latent Aryan racism remains like a tap-root. This article doesn't even mention current events with the massive growing extreme right sector in Germany, just like in Ukraine with the Bandera nationalists. Criticism is sorely needed of this most biased tosh Wiki entry that reads more like an advert than an honest assessment that is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1028:8D1C:741E:2854:EFC3:A9D4:6EA4 (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, do you have actual insight into Germany? Because I live there and honestly, I think your view is very biased. Of course the nazis didn't vanish into thin air when the war ended. It happened that Nazis were able to stay in their positions. There's tons of literature about that. But what about the "latent Aryan racism"? Is there any proof that this is a thing over here? I doubt that.

PEGIDA is more of a local or regional thing in Dresden and Eastern Germany (I'm serious, look it up), even though people should be wary.Where is the massive growing extreme right sector? The only thing that I could name is the political party "AfD". Those are some kind of centre-right to right-wing, not far-right per se.

You are welcome to back up your claims with reliable evidence and introduce changes. I believe the article needs restructuring and updates, though. I just don't agree with what you claim to be facts. 85.216.10.199 (talk) 22:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PEGIDA movement looks to be anti-Islam but not anti-foreigner. People with turkish roots like Akif Princci and the kurdish background woman Leyla Bilge have spoken there and being cheered by the public.80.131.52.188 (talk) 02:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Division

I believe what this article desperately needs is the division between the old right (i.e. Neonazism) and the New Right, as the two are often political enemies and differ in many ideological points. NsMn (talk) 20:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the page is a mess

The article, which never seems to have been good, is outdated, wishy-washy (see above comment, needs definitions), with extremely poor sourcing and bad writing. the sections have become useless, as stuff is added arbitrarily.--Wuerzele (talk) 03:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Term missleading

You can be far-right in german politics and still totally in line with the law, constitution and within the democratic norms of politics. Neo-Nazism is not. "Far-right extremist politics in Germany" would be the more appropriate title to describe a party like the NPD.80.131.52.188 (talk) 02:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

started translation of German Wikipedia article

I have started translating the sections from the German Wiki article that the English article hasn't covered yet. WinkingWikiWiking (talk) 10:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Omission of AfD

The status of whether Alternative für Deutschland qualifies as far right is contested, but I believe there is enough significant literature to warrant inclusion. Their electoral victory in 2017 is hailed by many newspapers as first time a far right party entered Bundestag since the DRP election results in 1949. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article lists quite a few reliable sources that describe AfD as a far right party. Wikipedia should follow the reliable sources. Polygnotus (talk) 19:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

State apparatus page split

I think the "State apparatus" section should be split into its own page. It would give room for new information in this Wikipedia article and it will allow us to expand on the topic of the far right in the German State apparatus in its respective article. Zyxrq (talk) 03:01, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Zyxrq: Your recent edits removed ([1]) removed very siginificant events from the article, especially the high-profile National Socialist Underground murders. The far-right in Germany is no stranger to violence and removing these (including figures which chart the AfD's vote shares over the years) without justification on policy violations appears to be unexplained censorship. Gotitbro (talk) 05:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gotitbro I'm making room for more relevant information that I want to add, which is also why I want to split the page. I also wanted to rewrite parts of this article so its not so choppy. Zyxrq (talk) 06:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But yea saying "Clean up" was probably misleading on my part. Zyxrq (talk) 06:13, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the page is split that would not be reason enough to remove what are only a few paras (already a summarization). If you want to consolidate the criminal acts in a single section, I can see the rationale, but do that in one edit or edits in succession or use {{In use}} if you need sometime; but don't blank content without intimation. Gotitbro (talk) 06:15, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Though can you make a page splitting request, I still think it will be helpful to clear up some room in the article. In other words I don’t know how to actually split the page. Thank you. Zyxrq (talk) 07:11, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]