Talk:Evening Bells (painting)/GA1
Appearance
GA Review
[edit]GA toolbox |
---|
Reviewing |
Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch
Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 13:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Happy to review the article.
Review
[edit]It's worth checking if the Russian Wikipedia article has any further information, wikilinks, or sources that could be used in this article.
Lead section / infobox
[edit]- Link monastery; exhibited (Exhibition).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- The image used in the inbox is only a fifth the size of another (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Evening_Bells), which I would use instead.
- The larger one cuts out a few pieces of the painting, most notably Levitan's signature in the bottom left. Therefore, I believe the current one is the best available version. — Golden call me maybe?
- Unlink Moscow (MOS:OL).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
1.1 Background and creation
[edit]- Levitan had the idea – introduce and link Levitan using his full name.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- There are instances where a pair of references need to be swapped to put them in numerical order, here and elsewhere in the article.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Introduce Ivan Kozlov.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- in the monograph art historian – it looks as if a word may be missing.
- Correct; Fixed. — Golden call me maybe?
- Link monastery; Zvenigorod; hipped (Hip roof); Yakov Polonsky (he needs to be introduced).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Presumably, Plyos can be linked to Plyos, Ivanovo Oblast.
- It's already linked at first mention. — Golden call me maybe?
- Unlink Czech Republic (MOS:OL).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
1.2 After creation
[edit]- Link exhibited (Exhibition).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Zinaida Ratkova-Rozhnova (1870–1966) – the dates should be removed as no other people in the article are given them.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Zinaida left Russia in 1918, she left behind a number of works of art - amend to something like ‘she left Russia in 1918, she left behind works of art’.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- and some paintings - ‘and paintings’.
- Changed. — Golden call me maybe?
- shown at several exhibitions - ‘shown on several occasions’. (to reduce the number of times ‘exhibitions’ occurs in the paragraph).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Hannover – it's ‘Hanover’ in English.
- Corrected. — Golden call me maybe?
- the anniversary exhibition – ‘the exhibition’.
- Changed. — Golden call me maybe?
- The caption doesn’t require the picture’s dimensions.
- Removed. — Golden call me maybe?
2 Description
[edit]- Link Impressionist (Impressionism); crepuscular (Crepuscular rays)
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- transforming the mundane into something unique in a magical twilight zone where darkness and light, reality and reflection, merge – this is an opinion, and I would name who said it – Mary Chamot? - (or the source it comes from) in the paragraph.
- Attributed it to Mary Chamot. — Golden call me maybe?
- a flimsy wooden bridge – as we don’t know if the bridge was flimsy or not, amend to ‘ a flimsy-looking wooden bridge’.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- To improve the prose of There are boats and a small pier bridge near the bank, as well as a boat carrying people floating down the river, amend to something like ‘There is a small pier bridge near the bank, as well as boats, including one carrying people down the river.’.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- but they are more open – needs amending, as it sounds as if the monastery doors are not closed.
- Removed. — Golden call me maybe?
- is vastly different – why vastly? (see MOS:FLOWERY).
- Removed. — Golden call me maybe?
- Link palette (Color scheme) – the word colour is redundant here.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov wrote is wrongly placed in the sentence.
- Corrected. — Golden call me maybe?
- Replace art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov with ‘ Fedorov-Davydov’, as he has already been introduced.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
3 Reception
[edit]- Volga – ‘on the Volga River’? (if so amend and link the Volga).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov - ‘Fedorov-Davydov’.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- the symphony – was he a composer?
- Nope; Corrected. — Golden call me maybe?
- This is – his first landscape – I cannot check the quotation but the dash seems misplaced.
- Yep; Corrected. — Golden call me maybe?
- defined "abode" – being a term, abode should be in italics and without quotation marks.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
4 References
[edit]- Ref 1 (Смирнов) Translate the author’s name to Smirnov, Leonid. The other references in Russian should also be changed.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- Ref 12 (Levitan 1956) is not mentioned in the Literature section.
- I was going to delete that citation, forgot it; Deleted now. — Golden call me maybe?
- Refs 29 and 30 (Druzhinin 1987) are not linked to the Literature section, as the source is shown as being written in 1986.
- Corrected the year in citations. — Golden call me maybe?
5 Literature
[edit]- Translate the authors in Russian to Bruk, Yakov Vladimirovich; Lovleva, Lidiya Ivanovna
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- There are several instance where the Russian are not written in a romanized form, or translated, e.g.Художник РСФСР. See MOS:ROMANIZATION, all such instances need to be sorted.
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- The following sources have URLs that are of little use and should not be included: Брук, Яков Владимирович; Иовлева, Лидия Ивановна (2001); Druzhinin, Serafim (1986); Fedorov-Davydov, Aleksei (1966); Fedorov-Davydov, Aleksei (1975); Fiala, Vladimir (1974); Petrov, Vladimir (1992); Petrov, Vladimir (2000); Pospelov, Gleb (1997).
- Why are they of little use? It's not quite so easy to find some of these sources online, so the URLs can help the reader get easy access. — Golden call me maybe?
- OK but the Google Books websites don't provide easy access, as they are snippet view only. If you can't verify the text in the article using the Google Books website, the URL isn't much use. I'll see if these books can be accessed online in other ways, and add the URLs if I find any examples—please feel free to revert, of course. As this is the only point we are still discussing, the article can still pass with flying colours even if the Google Books links are not taken out. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are correct about the snippet view. I just assumed they'd be useful for verifying the article, but they're not much help for doing further reading. I don't mind removing them if they create some kind of MOS/ref issue. — Golden call me maybe? 18:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Leave things as they are if you want, it's only a slight annoyance for anyone wanting to read the sources in more detail, but if you wanted to take the article further, a peer reviewer might well ask for them to go. AM
- You are correct about the snippet view. I just assumed they'd be useful for verifying the article, but they're not much help for doing further reading. I don't mind removing them if they create some kind of MOS/ref issue. — Golden call me maybe? 18:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK but the Google Books websites don't provide easy access, as they are snippet view only. If you can't verify the text in the article using the Google Books website, the URL isn't much use. I'll see if these books can be accessed online in other ways, and add the URLs if I find any examples—please feel free to revert, of course. As this is the only point we are still discussing, the article can still pass with flying colours even if the Google Books links are not taken out. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Why are they of little use? It's not quite so easy to find some of these sources online, so the URLs can help the reader get easy access. — Golden call me maybe?
- A url is available for Chamot at https://archive.org/details/russianpaintings0000cham/page/n1/mode/2up (registration required).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
- A url is available for King (https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+wanderers%27+return.-a0376683184).
- Done. — Golden call me maybe?
On hold
[edit]I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 14 June to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Amitchell125: Thank you for such a thorough review! I've addressed all of your points above. — Golden call me maybe? 18:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Great job, please see my comment above. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Passing
[edit]All good for a GA pass, congratulations! Amitchell125 (talk) 18:48, 6 June 2022 (UTC)