Talk:European Union–United States relations
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[edit]Reference number 33 ("US imposes tariff sanctions on European luxury goods". Wsws.org. March 5, 1999. Retrieved July 25, 2012.) is taken from the World Socialist Website. This source may lack of neutrality and could be biased. In addition, this website may also be unreliable because it does not present any reference. Gspinola96 (talk) 22:43, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- And again in 2018: US President Donald Trump seems poised to escalate his trade wars, and looks to be opening up a new front in the automotive sector against dominant Germany luxury brands. https://www. caradvice. com.au/653799/trump-to-ban-mercedes-benz-from-usa-report/ (NB: link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist. )
- Is this a reference you would accept?
- And again in 2018: Nevertheless the White House incumbent is unfazed threatening to slap duties on the import of Germany luxury cars, again for reasons of national security — a ridiculous pretext being used to circumvent WTO rules. https://gulfnews.com/opinion/thinkers/why-american-allies-are-angry-1.2231528
- Is this a reference you would accept?
- If so, the source also says that the US tariff is seen both as illegal and as pure protectionism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.185.253.216 (talk) 12:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Comments on "Trump Administration" section
[edit]I found the section "Trump administration" a bit out of place and distracting at the end of the page. I think it is an important topic and it should be mentioned in another section such as "History". A better option would be to create a new section concerning US presidencies where also the previous US presidents' administrations are discussed (eg. Bush administration and Obama administration). This article (https://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace-jspui/bitstream/2134/15008/3/For%20IR%20HJD%20Final%20Revised2%2023.05.2011.pdf) is a good source that explains diplomatic relations of the US with the EU from Bush to Obama. Gspinola96 (talk) 23:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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Requested move 23 November 2024
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- European Union–United States relations → United States–European Union relations
- European Union–Peru relations → Peru–European Union relation
- European Union–Turkey relations → Turkey–European Union relations
- European Union–Sudan relations → Sudan–European Union relations
– Per proper naming convention as the EU is not a country. Was proposed and failed before. No discussion was held after that by consensus to move WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Raladic (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Article has existed at this name for 3 years, seems a bit of a stretch for an undiscussed revert.
- The WP:AT (specifically WP:AND) policy says "
It is generally best to list topics in alphabetical order, especially those involving different countries or cultures.
- it's an "especially" not a "doesn't apply in reverse. - So these 4 titles here all seem to be appropriately listed alphabetically. Raladic (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Countries and cultures are not reflected by these articles. This isn't a bilateral relations article were it would make sense. It would make sense if it was about two countries. EU is not a country. And cultures are not applicable to these articles since there is no direct relation or mention of it. Wider consensus needs to be had. And the article was under United States–European Union relations at first. A discussion in point from the US article talk page from 2014 would agree with this. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- And that was 10 years ago, but the AT policy on preferring Alphabetical sorting in general still stands, whether the EU is a county, or culture, or neither. As I already mentioned, that article has now been at this new title for many years without any opposition. So I think if you want these 4 to be moved, holding a full RM and nominating all 4 in a bulk RM discussion will be best to clear up and create clear consensus. Raladic (talk) 03:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Countries and cultures are not reflected by these articles. This isn't a bilateral relations article were it would make sense. It would make sense if it was about two countries. EU is not a country. And cultures are not applicable to these articles since there is no direct relation or mention of it. Wider consensus needs to be had. And the article was under United States–European Union relations at first. A discussion in point from the US article talk page from 2014 would agree with this. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
The above thread was moved from Special:Permalink/1259060490#c-Raladic-20241123035300-WikiCleanerMan-20241123002900 for context of the contested move request. Please add new comments below.
- Support based on the prior RM, especially due to the overwhelming consistency with Category: Third-country relations of the European Union. It seems like the move in 2021 was without discussion, at least not on this talk page. TiggerJay (talk) 06:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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