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Edit request to update the "Corporate structure"

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On behalf of Endurance, I have returned (see above section) with a more specific edit request. As seen at User:Melanie from Endurance/Endurance International Group, I propose replacing the current article's "Company structure" section with the proposed "Corporate overview" section, which provides an accurate, neutral overview of the company and its services, office locations, and affiliated brands and businesses.

As I mentioned before, the current "Subsidiary brands" subsection points to many unreliable sources and dead URLs, so I have drafted a complete and properly sourced version to improve the article. Is there an editor who will review the below text and copy over to the article as appropriate? I've provided markup below. @VB00 and PaleCloudedWhite: I am pinging both of you in case you wish to review based on the above discussion.

Proposed "Corporate overview" text
Corporate overview

Endurance International Group, formerly known as BizLand,[1] provides online solutions to small and medium sized businesses.[2][3] The company offers more than 150 products and services, including web hosting, website builders, domain names,[4] email marketing, mobile device tools, cloud storage, e-commerce, security, productivity, and social media solutions.[5]

The company has offices in: Burlington, Massachusetts; Orem and Provo, Utah; Tempe, Arizona; Austin and Houston, Texas; Vancouver, Washington; Brazil; India; and Leeuwarden, Netherlands.[2][6][7] Endurance also has offices in Waltham, Massachusetts, Loveland, Colorado, and New York City, following its 2015 acquisition of Constant Contact.[8]

Endurance brands and affiliated businesses include:[9]

References

  1. ^ a b "Email marketing giant Constant Contact acquired for $1 billion". VentureBeat. November 2, 2015. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g Bray, Hiawatha (October 26, 2013). "Web host company raises $252 million in IPO". The Boston Globe. Boston Globe Media Partners. ISSN 0743-1791. OCLC 66652431. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  3. ^ a b c d Heller, Jaime (March 15, 2013). "Web Hoster Endurance International Preps for IPO". The Wall Street Journal. News Corp. ISSN 0099-9660. OCLC 781541372. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  4. ^ Allemann, Andrew. "SEC investigating Endurance International Group". Domain Name Wire. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  5. ^ a b c d e f g h i j "Web Host Endurance International Bulks Up with Buys". Investor's Business Daily. April 8, 2015. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  6. ^ "Our Locations". Endurance International Group. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  7. ^ "Leeuwarden Office". Endurance International Group. Retrieved October 3, 2016.
  8. ^ Heltzell, Dallas (February 16, 2016). "Loveland layoffs follow closing of Constant Contact sale". BizWest. Retrieved September 15, 2016.
  9. ^ a b c d e f g h i "Our Brands". Endurance International Group. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  10. ^ a b c d "Endurance International Group Reveals Purchase of BuyDomains.com from NameMedia". DN Journal. November 4, 2014. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  11. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa ab ac ad ae af ag ah "BBB Business Review: The Endurance International Group, Inc". Better Business Bureau. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  12. ^ "Management Team". BigRock. Retrieved June 29, 2016.
  13. ^ a b c d Warren, Christina (August 2, 2013). "Bluehost, HostGator and HostMonster Go Down". Mashable. Retrieved June 27, 2016.
  14. ^ Allemann, Andrew (November 4, 2014). "Endurance continues to roll up, acquires BuyDomains". Domain Name Wire. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  15. ^ Engel, Jeff. "Constant Contact Cuts 15 Percent of Staff After Its Acquisition". Xconomy. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  16. ^ Gagliordi, Natalie (November 2, 2015). "Constant Contact acquired for $1.1 billion by holdings group Endurance International". ZDNet. CBS Interactive. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  17. ^ "Endurance International Group Expands in India and Beyond - Completes Directi acquisition, expanding international reach". Endurance International Group. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  18. ^ "Domain.com Issues "Brand Better" Challenge at TechCrunch Disrupt". Marketing Weekly News. September 27, 2014. Retrieved June 29, 2016 – via Highbeam Research. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
  19. ^ "Registrar Information". Dotster. Retrieved June 28, 2016. We are a wholly-owned subsidiary of Endurance International Group Holdings, Inc.
  20. ^ "Emailbrain: Trademark Coverage". Inventively. Inventively Inc. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  21. ^ "Emailbrain: Smart digital marketing". Endurance International Group. Retrieved June 28, 2016. Emailbrain is no longer accepting new customers. For the best email marketing, we recommend trying Constant Contact.
  22. ^ "About Us". FastDomain. Retrieved June 28, 2016. Fastdomain Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Endurance International Group Holdings, Inc.
  23. ^ "HostClear Privacy Policy". HostClear. Retrieved June 28, 2016. As a part of the The Endurance International Group, Inc. ("Endurance"), HostClear is able to provide a variety and range of products and services to help customers with their technological needs.
  24. ^ "HyperMart's Privacy Policy". HyperMart. Retrieved June 29, 2016.
  25. ^ a b "Constant Contact Announces Fourth Class of Startups Selected for the Small Business Innovation Program; Participants to Take Up Residence at the SMB InnoLoft April 1". Marketing Weekly News. April 16, 2016 – via Highbeam Research. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
  26. ^ "Endurance International Group to Purchase Intuit Websites Business". Intuit. August 15, 2012. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  27. ^ "Endurance International Group to Buy Intuit Websites Business". Manufacturing Close-Up. August 23, 2012. Retrieved June 29, 2016 – via HighBeam Research. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
  28. ^ "Mojo Marketplace Launches 'Do It for Me' Services". Entertainment Close-up. May 7, 2014. Retrieved June 29, 2016 – via Highbeam Research. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
  29. ^ "Highland-Backed IPOs and Acquisitions". Highland Capital Partners. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  30. ^ Gite, Akshay (February 4, 2014). "EIG's Acquisition of ResellerClub – Update". ResellerClub. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  31. ^ "Uspto Issues Trademark: Seogears". US State News. HT Media. July 16, 2013. Retrieved June 29, 2016 – via Highbeam Research. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
  32. ^ "Constant Contact Acquires SinglePlatform, Bolsters Online Marketing Business". Forbes. June 15, 2012. ISSN 0015-6914. Retrieved September 15, 2016. Note: Constant Contact acquired SinglePlatform in 2012, and Endurance International Group acquired Constant Contact in 2015.
  33. ^ a b "Endurance International Group Reports 2015 Second Quarter Results". MarketWatch. August 4, 2015. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  34. ^ a b Hamilton, David. "EIG's Acquisition of Verio and Site5 Nets 86,000 New Subscribers". Web Host Industry Review. Retrieved June 28, 2016.
  35. ^ Thakur, Angad Singh (June 1, 2016). "How Hari Ravichandran built Endurance through the inorganic route". Forbes India. Retrieved June 29, 2016.
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==Corporate overview==
Endurance International Group, formerly known as BizLand,<ref name="Giant">{{cite web|title=Email marketing giant Constant Contact acquired for $1 billion|url=http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/02/email-marketing-giant-constant-contact-acquired-for-1-billion/|website=[[VentureBeat]]|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=November 2, 2015}}</ref> provides online solutions to small and medium sized businesses.<ref name=Bray>{{Cite news|url=https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2013/10/25/endurance-web-hoster-endurance-raises-million-ipo/0mwVrnj7qmz3qefHXkRYyM/story.html|title=Web host company raises $252 million in IPO|date=October 26, 2013|accessdate=June 27, 2016|work=[[The Boston Globe]]|first=Hiawatha|last=Bray|publisher=Boston Globe Media Partners|issn=0743-1791|oclc=66652431}}</ref><ref name="Heller">{{cite news|last=Heller|first=Jaime|title=Web Hoster Endurance International Preps for IPO|url=http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2013/03/15/web-hoster-endurance-international-preps-for-ipo/|accessdate=June 27, 2016|work=[[The Wall Street Journal]]|publisher=[[News Corp]]|date=March 15, 2013|issn=0099-9660|oclc=781541372}}</ref> The company offers more than 150 products and services, including [[Web hosting service|web hosting]], [[website builder]]s, [[domain names]],<ref name="Allemann">{{cite web|last=Allemann|first=Andrew|title=SEC investigating Endurance International Group|url=http://domainnamewire.com/2015/12/17/sec-investigating-endurance-international-group/|website=Domain Name Wire|accessdate=June 27, 2016}}</ref> [[email marketing]], mobile device tools, [[cloud storage]], [[e-commerce]], [[Internet security|security]], productivity, and [[social media]] solutions.<ref name="IBD">{{cite news|title=Web Host Endurance International Bulks Up with Buys|url=http://www.nasdaq.com/article/web-host-endurance-international-bulks-up-with-buys-cm463276|accessdate=June 27, 2016|work=[[Investor's Business Daily]]|date=April 8, 2015}}</ref>

The company has offices in: Burlington, Massachusetts; Orem and Provo, Utah; Tempe, Arizona; Austin and Houston, Texas; Vancouver, Washington; Brazil; India; and Leeuwarden, Netherlands.<ref name=Bray/><ref>{{cite web|title=Our Locations|url=https://endurance.com/our-careers/our-locations|publisher=Endurance International Group|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Leeuwarden Office|url=http://endurance.com/our-careers/our-locations/leeuwarden|publisher=Endurance International Group|accessdate=October 3, 2016}}</ref> Endurance also has offices in Waltham, Massachusetts, Loveland, Colorado, and New York City, following its 2015 acquisition of [[Constant Contact]].<ref name="Heltzell">{{cite news|last1=Heltzell|first1=Dallas|title=Loveland layoffs follow closing of Constant Contact sale|url=http://bizwest.com/loveland-layoffs-follow-closing-of-constant-contact-sale/|accessdate=September 15, 2016|work=BizWest|date=February 16, 2016}}</ref>

Endurance brands and affiliated businesses include:<ref name=Brands>{{cite web|title=Our Brands|url=http://www.endurance.com/our-company/our-brands|publisher=Endurance International Group|accessdate=June 27, 2016}}</ref>

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* A Small Orange<ref name=IBD/><ref name="DN">{{cite web|title=Endurance International Group Reveals Purchase of BuyDomains.com from NameMedia|url=http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2014/dailyposts/20141104.htm|website=DN Journal|accessdate=June 27, 2016|date=November 4, 2014}}</ref> <nowiki>* AccountSupport<ref name="BBB">{{cite web|title=BBB Business Review: The Endurance International Group, Inc.|url=http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/internet-services/the-endurance-international-group-inc-in-burlington-ma-76863/|publisher=[[Better Business Bureau]]|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref>
* ApolloHosting<ref name=BBB/>
* Arvixe<ref name=IBD/><ref name=DN/>
* BigRock<ref name=Brands/><ref>{{cite web|title=Management Team|url=http://www.bigrock.com/bigrock-management/|publisher=BigRock|accessdate=June 29, 2016}}</ref>
* BizLand<ref name=BBB/>
* BlueDomino<ref name=BBB/>
* [[Bluehost]]<ref name=Bray/><ref name=IBD/><ref name=Warren>{{cite web|title=Bluehost, HostGator and HostMonster Go Down|url=http://mashable.com/2013/08/02/bluehost-down/#xbhXRBJf_Eq3|website=[[Mashable]]|accessdate=June 27, 2016|date=August 2, 2013|first=Christina|last=Warren}}</ref>
* BuyDomains<ref name=IBD/><ref>{{cite web|last=Allemann|first=Andrew|title=Endurance continues to roll up, acquires BuyDomains|url=http://domainnamewire.com/2014/11/04/endurance-continues-to-roll-up-acquires-buydomains/|website=Domain Name Wire|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=November 4, 2014}}</ref>
* Constant Contact<ref name=Giant/><ref name="Engel">{{cite web|last=Engel|first=Jeff|title=Constant Contact Cuts 15 Percent of Staff After Its Acquisition|url=http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2016/02/12/constant-contact-cuts-15-percent-of-staff-after-its-acquisition/|website=[[Xconomy]]|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|last=Gagliordi|first=Natalie|title=Constant Contact acquired for $1.1 billion by holdings group Endurance International|url=http://www.zdnet.com/article/constant-contact-acquired-for-1-1-billion-by-holdings-group-endurance-international/|website=[[ZDNet]]|publisher=[[CBS Interactive]]|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=November 2, 2015}}</ref>
* [[Directi]]<ref name=IBD/><ref name=DN/><ref>{{cite web|title=Endurance International Group Expands in India and Beyond - Completes Directi acquisition, expanding international reach|url=http://www.endurance.com/press/press-releases/endurance-international-group-expands-in-india-and-beyond-completes-directi-acquisition-extending-international-reach|publisher=Endurance International Group|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref>
* Domain.com<ref name=Bray/><ref name=Heller/><ref>{{cite news|title=Domain.com Issues "Brand Better" Challenge at TechCrunch Disrupt|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-385474738.html|accessdate=June 29, 2016|work=Marketing Weekly News|date=September 27, 2014|subscription=yes|via=[[Highbeam Research]]}}</ref>
* DomainHost<ref name=BBB/>
* Dot5Hosting<ref name=BBB/>
* Dotster<ref name=BBB/><ref>{{cite web|title=Registrar Information|url=https://www.dotster.com/dotster/about/registrar-info.bml|publisher=Dotster|accessdate=June 28, 2016|quote=We are a wholly-owned subsidiary of Endurance International Group Holdings, Inc.}}</ref>
* EasyCGI<ref name=BBB/>
* eHost<ref name=BBB/>
* Emailbrain (defunct)<ref>{{cite web|title=Emailbrain: Trademark Coverage|url=https://inventively.com/search/trademarks/77317840|website=Inventively|publisher=Inventively Inc.|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|title=Emailbrain: Smart digital marketing|url=http://emailbrain.com|publisher=Endurance International Group|accessdate=June 28, 2016|quote= Emailbrain is no longer accepting new customers. For the best email marketing, we recommend trying Constant Contact.}}</ref>
* EntryHost<ref name=BBB/>
* FastDomain<ref>{{cite web|title=About Us|url=https://www.fastdomain.com/about_us.html|publisher=FastDomain|accessdate=June 28, 2016|quote=Fastdomain Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Endurance International Group Holdings, Inc.}}</ref>
* FatCow<ref name=Bray/><ref name=Heller/>
* FreeYellow<ref name=BBB/>
* Globat<ref name=BBB/>
* Homestead<ref name=Brands/><ref name=BBB/>
* [[Homestead Technologies]]<ref name=BBB/>
* HostCentric<ref name=BBB/>
* HostClear<ref>{{cite web|title=HostClear Privacy Policy|url=https://www.hostclear.com/privacy|publisher=HostClear|accessdate=June 28, 2016|quote=As a part of the The Endurance International Group, Inc. ("Endurance"), HostClear is able to provide a variety and range of products and services to help customers with their technological needs.}}</ref>
* [[HostGator]]<ref name=Bray/><ref name=IBD/><ref name=Warren/>
* HostMonster<ref name=Warren/>
* HostYourSite<ref name=BBB/>
* HyperMart<ref name=BBB/><ref>{{cite web|title=HyperMart's Privacy Policy|url=http://www.hypermart.net/legal/legal_privacy.bml|publisher=HyperMart|accessdate=June 29, 2016}}</ref>
* IMOutdoorsHosting<ref name=BBB/>
* Impress.ly<ref name=Fourth>{{Cite news|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-449035267.html|title=Constant Contact Announces Fourth Class of Startups Selected for the Small Business Innovation Program; Participants to Take Up Residence at the SMB InnoLoft April 1|date=April 16, 2016|work=Marketing Weekly News|subscription=yes|via=[[Highbeam Research]]}}</ref>
* [[iPage]]<ref name=Bray/><ref name=Heller/><ref name=IBD/>
* Intuit Websites<ref>{{cite web|title=Endurance International Group to Purchase Intuit Websites Business|url=http://investors.intuit.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2012/Endurance-International-Group-to-Purchase-Intuit-Websites-Business/default.aspx|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=August 15, 2012|publisher=[[Intuit]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Endurance International Group to Buy Intuit Websites Business|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-33507063.html|accessdate=June 29, 2016|work=Manufacturing Close-Up|date=August 23, 2012|subscription=yes|via=HighBeam Research}}</ref>
* IPOWER<ref name=Brands/>
* IPowerWeb<ref name=BBB/>
* JustCloud<ref name=Brands/>
* JustHost<ref name=Warren/>
* MOJO Marketplace<ref name=Brands/><ref>{{cite news|title=Mojo Marketplace Launches 'Do It for Me' Services|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-367230435.html|accessdate=June 29, 2016|work=Entertainment Close-up|date=May 7, 2014|subscription=yes|via=Highbeam Research}}</ref>
* MyDomain<ref name=BBB/>
* NameMedia<ref>{{cite web|title=Highland-Backed IPOs and Acquisitions|url=http://www.hcp.com/content3782.html|publisher=[[Highland Capital Partners]]|accessdate=June 28, 2016}}</ref>
* Netfirms<ref name=BBB/>
* Networkshosting<ref name=BBB/>
* PowWeb<ref name=BBB/>
* PureHost<ref name=BBB/>
* ReadyHosting<ref name=BBB/>
* ResellerClub<ref name=IBD/><ref name=DN/><ref>{{cite web|last=Gite|first=Akshay|title=EIG’s Acquisition of ResellerClub – Update|url=http://blog.resellerclub.com/eigs-acquisition-of-resellerclub-update/|publisher=ResellerClub|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=February 4, 2014}}</ref>
* SEO Gears<ref name=Brands/><ref>{{cite news|title=Uspto Issues Trademark: Seogears|url=https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-3019954911.html|accessdate=June 29, 2016|work=US State News|publisher=[[HT Media]]|date=July 16, 2013|subscription=yes|via=Highbeam Research}}</ref>
* SinglePlatform<ref>{{cite journal|title=Constant Contact Acquires SinglePlatform, Bolsters Online Marketing Business|journal=[[Forbes]]|date=June 15, 2012|url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/06/15/constant-contact-acquires-singleplatform-bolsters-online-marketing-business/#200f1dbe6851|accessdate=September 15, 2016|issn=0015-6914}} Note: Constant Contact acquired SinglePlatform in 2012, and Endurance International Group acquired Constant Contact in 2015.</ref>
* Site5<ref name=Reports>{{cite web|title=Endurance International Group Reports 2015 Second Quarter Results|url=http://www.marketwatch.com/story/endurance-international-group-reports-2015-second-quarter-results-2015-08-04|website=MarketWatch|accessdate=June 28, 2016|date=August 4, 2015}}</ref><ref name=Hamilton>{{cite web|last=Hamilton|first=David|title=EIG's Acquisition of Verio and Site5 Nets 86,000 New Subscribers|url=http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/eigs-acquisition-of-verio-and-site5-nets-86000-new-subscribers|accessdate=June 28, 2016|website=Web Host Industry Review}}</ref>
* SiteBuilder<ref name=Fourth/>
* Spry<ref name=BBB/>
* StartLogic<ref name=Brands/><ref name=BBB/>
* [[Typepad]]<ref name=Brands/>
* USANetHosting<ref name=BBB/>
* Verio<ref name=Reports/><ref name=Hamilton/>
* VirtualAvenue<ref name=BBB/>
* VPSLink<ref name=BBB/>
* WebHost4Life<ref name=BBB/>
* Webhosting.info<ref name="ForbesIndia">{{cite journal|last=Thakur|first=Angad Singh|title=How Hari Ravichandran built Endurance through the inorganic route|journal=[[Forbes India]]|date=June 1, 2016|url=http://forbesindia.com/article/work-in-progress/how-hari-ravichandran-built-endurance-through-the-inorganic-route/43361/1|accessdate=June 29, 2016}}</ref>
* Webstrikesolutions<ref name=BBB/>
* Webzai<ref name=IBD/>
* Xeran<ref name=BBB/>
* YourWebHosting<ref name=BBB/>

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Thanks, and do let me know if you have any questions. Melanie from Endurance (talk) 16:50, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: I'll wait for the opinions of other editors, however, the insertion of the list into the article seemed very controversial in the first place (see talk page discussion above). Wikipedia is not a directory, and simple listings are not welcome. If an acquisition is truly notable, it should be included in the timeline (which does describe some notable investments). I have looked over several of the featured company articles (of which there aren't many), and none of them seem to contain lists of affiliated brands/something similar. Regards, VB00 (talk) 17:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Though the subsidiary list is already in the article. If it is to stay there, it makes sense for it to be accurate and properly referenced. However, the question is whether it should remain in that form, be removed or be converted to prose (the latter normally recommended)? Are there any specific guidelines on this issue, further to the general WP:NOTDIRECTORY (which advises against lists of business alliances)? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@VB00 and PaleCloudedWhite: Thank you both for responding. I have read all of the above discussion and recognize the sensitivities around including this list. However, I see more arguments in favor of its inclusion, not its elimination. The following editors all supported including this content: User:Scoundr3l, User:Mjp1976, User:Jkfkauia, User:CmdrSharp, User:Slipandslide, and User:Lsommerer. The arguments they raised were that the information presented in the list is neutral and informative. User:EvergreenFir objected to the list's inclusion, but based on the article's size. I can see this argument being used for the current article (or previous versions), but not when looking at the proposed draft in its entirety. Here, noting affiliated brands and businesses seems appropriate when providing a corporate overview. User:NorthBySouthBaranof wants to make sure entries are appropriately sourced, and I believe the proposed "Corporate overview" section is sourced appropriately. Yes, a couple of editors have pointed to WP:NOTDIRECTORY to support the list's removal, but this argument has been shot down by other editors, and more have expressed support for the list's inclusion. I have "pinged" users throughout this post and hope they will return to continue this conversation. I also hope that—if there's agreement this information can be included—there is an editor who would be willing to copy the markup provided within this edit request over to the article. Finally, I am leaving my current role and will no longer be the representative for Endurance on Wikipedia. Please do keep this request under consideration as one of my colleagues will be picking up this work in my place, so expect to see a new account created and COI notice posted above. Melanie from Endurance (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My reason for wanting this list included stems from the fact that every other corporation on wikipedia has their Subsidiaries listed. Look at just these three corporations: Sears Holdings, GE, and Amazon.com. So why is it that for this one corporation we can not do the same? The Information for all these subsidiaries can be found on EIG's SEC Filings. Mjp1976 (talk) 21:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjp1976: Hi there. Just because something has been mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia does not mean that it should be included (you may wish to read Wikipedia:Other_stuff_exists for more info). Inclusion is based purely on consensus in the current article, not in some others. In response to User:Melanie from Endurance's comment - A consensus is not a vote, nor is it permanent (you may wish to look over the explanation of consensus at Wikipedia:What_is_consensus?#What_consensus_is_not). Just because the majority has voted for the list's inclusion does not mean that it was actually consensus. Wikipedians like to use the term !votes (not votes) to remind others that consensus should be determined by the arguments that editors bring, and not by a voting system. As such, pointing to relevant guidelines that do support the list's removal is indeed considered better than expressing personal opinions and such (which does not necessarily mean that the list needs to be removed, but does mean that consensus needs to be determined again on whether the list should be updated, or removed). Regards, VB00 (talk) 07:14, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@VB00: I am for verifiable facts to be put in the article. The facts I state are able to be verified in the SEC filings by EIG. These are not a point of contention, or a point of discussion, To omit facts about the company would violate the Wikimedia Foundation's mission statement to "... to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally." Providing facts about a company would be educational. If you like or dislike the company that is neither here nor there. This is about the facts that are available. You can find a complete list in the multiple SEC filings that the company has made. If that data is not good enough, It must be stated that filing False SEC filings is a serious offence. No reputable company would do such thing. I am not for using some website that lists the subsidiaries that are used to bash the company. I am for official verifiable data posted in SEC filings. Verifiable Facts should not be in dispute. Mjp1976 (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjp1976: I seem to be confused about one thing - are you just an editor working on an article, a reviewer or the new representative that Melanie mentioned? It would be helpful (especially for me) to make it more clear. Now, I see that you have said that "verifiable facts should not be in dispute" - that is not true, and that is not how Wikipedia works. Just because something is verifiable does not mean that it should be included - you may wish to review Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Encyclopedic_content. What I'm concerned about is the weight that the list is given within the article - it takes up about half the article. This is not a list article, and I'm sure that you have seen the issue being raised in the past. Now, onto the last interesting comment that I saw: "If you like or dislike a company, that is neither here nor there" - Please assume good faith. I find your accusations quite random, and I did not know what the Endurance Group was until reviewing the edit request. Hopefully this has cleared some things up. Regards, VB00 (talk) 05:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@VB00: If the number of subsidaries takes up too much space on the main page, would not making a summery page be more appropriate? If that would lighten the "weight" of the page, that would be an option. Many of the Brands do have their own notability, however they don't require their own page for each brand. A summery page of the brands could suffice. What do you think of the option of a summery page and link off the main article? I am not affiliated with EIG. I do apologize for not assume good faith. There has been many edits wars on this article. Mjp1976 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjp1976: Unfortunately, I don't have sufficient experience in such matters, so I'd recommend that you ask someone else. If you are willing to create the list, perhaps pass it through AfC first? Regards, VB00 (talk) 13:20, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As this edit request has received extensive feedback, I am marking it as answered to remove it from the backlog. Altamel (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

April 2014 network issue

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I removed the following section from the article since it had been flagged as irrelevant for nearly two years. I'm outside my area of expertise, but happened accross this article, and this felt very much out of place. This wasn't a significant enough event to make major news sources and it isn't apparent that it has had long-term impact on the company, so I don't find it notable enough for inclusion in this article. I welcome opinions from others. Sondra.kinsey (talk) 22:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In April 2014, a major network issue at the data center in Provo, Utah, affected customers of Bluehost, HostMonster and JustHost, and took down many of the dedicated servers owned by HostGator customers.[1][relevant?]

References

  1. ^ Warren, Christina. "Bluehost, HostGator and HostMonster Go Down". Mashable. Retrieved 17 April 2014.

Update to Newfold Digital

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After acquiring Web.com in 2021, it seems Endurance International Group was rebranded to Newfold Digital by its parent.[1] It was reported on by a handful of tech-biz-oriented outlets. Thanks. - 71.209.163.100 (talk) 19:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracies and Issues With This Article

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First off, I would like to acknowledge that I am an employee of Newfold Digital, as disclosed in my profile. I have been working with editors I connected with on the Teahouse to create a new article draft for Newfold Digital. A major impetus for this was the issues with this article. The first is that Endurance International Group no longer exists. It was merged with Web.com Group to form Newfold Digital. This page was previously renamed to Newfold Digital, but that wasn't a good solution, because Newfold Digital is not just a continuation of EIG, nor did it solely originate from EIG. It is a new company, formed by the merger of EIG holdings with Web.com Group holdings, and this new company has since acquired several other companies. Rather than extensively editing and renaming this article, I propose leaving it as a historical record and moving forward with Newfold Digital, to simplify things and create a better and clearer experience for the interested reader.

There has been some confusion about why there should be a Newfold Digital article when this article already exists, and I am leaving this comment for any editor who happens to take a look, so they can get some idea of the problems with this article. Here are the issues as I see them:

1) The aforementioned issue of Newfold Digital vs. EIG. EIG no longer exists, but this article mentions several of the brands owned by Newfold Digital as if they were owned by EIG, including some brands that were acquired by Newfold Digital after EIG ceased to exist. This is factually inaccurate.

2) This article probably should not be simply renamed to Newfold Digital, because Newfold Digital is not solely comprised of former EIG holdings.

3) This article suffers from WP:PROSELINE. Newfold Digital was written to avoid this problem and provide simple, clear information about the parent company of these brands for the interested reader.

4) The basic company information in the article is inaccurate and muddled because of confusion between the former company and the new company. The new article would rectify this issue, and this article could link to the new article for clarity's sake.

5) Some of the content is not sourced properly. As an example, consider, "The CEO and all but one "C-level" officers from Web.com were retained after the merger, although EIG was much larger than Web.com." The source for this links to the Newfold Digital leadership page, but this page does not include any information on the size of EIG relative to Web.com. The following line is not sourced at all and appears to be speculative: "Web.com's strategy, like EIG's, was to grow through acquiring brands which they continued to operate, although they generally did not relocate the infrastructure of their acquired brands."

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I have zero interest in using Wikipedia as a marketing tool for Newfold Digital. But I do want to see accurate, up-to-date information included on Wikipedia, and I believe that having inaccurate, outdated information live, such as this article, is detrimental to Wikipedia. To this end, I am looking for assistance with Newfold Digital, to hopefully get it approved, so that this article can be updated and linked to the new article, resolving many of the aforementioned problems. Zach at Newfold (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@S0091 left a recent comment on your draft at Draft:Newfold Digital. I'd suggest using AFC's back and forth process to polish that draft and eventually get it accepted (if it meets our criteria, not all drafts do). The ability to "submit" AFC drafts into the queue will ensure you get responses and feedback. A complex talk page comment like this one, while appreciated, is less likely to generate action. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae That makes perfect sense. Thank you for the suggestion/direction; that's the course I'll pursue! Zach at Newfold (talk) 20:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Newfold Digital?

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That's been the name for a few years now. Any reason not to rename the page? John_Abbe (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree (and the main website is Newfold's). In addition, the header is confusing as it refers to the entity in past form (...was an IT services company) despite the fact that the new company being active today. Chelseam5 (talk) 15:26, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]