Talk:Endorsements in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries

Non-noteworthy tweets again

I'm reaffirming my previous objection to including tweets as endorsements. I specifically object to this tweet from Natalia Cordova-Buckley that says "So proud of you @TulsiGabbard !!! But mostly, I’m so grateful to have a candidate like you.". This is not worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. 02:01, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Yep. This was the issue that led to the RfC via the section above. The RfC closes next week and there seems a pretty solid consensus for ditching endorsements based just on a tweet... — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:46, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

That’s an explicit endorsement. How is that objectionable? That’s ridiculous that it’s objectionable. Tulsi isn’t my candidate but there appears no other reason to object to explicit endorsements like that Capriaf (talk) 20:00, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Employed for Harris' campaign vs. endorsing campaign

Current DNC members Laphonza Butler and Emmy Ruiz are listed under the "DNC members" section as having endorsed Kamala Harris. Both sources state Butler and Ruiz have been hired by the Harris team and are working for Harris' 2020 bid. I don't see anything in either source suggesting Butler and Ruiz have formally endorsed Harris. I don't believe being hired for a campaign and endorsing it are one in the same. Is there a policy or discussion an editor can point to that will clarify if I've misunderstood? What are others' thoughts? --Kbabej (talk) 22:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

RfC results implemented

After the closure of this RfC, I've gone back in to remove endorsements by non-notable individuals and endorsements without citations to reliable independent sources. Endorsements by notable organizations do not need to be covered by independent reliable sources, but there was one which did not make an explicit endorsement, so I removed that one, too. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:50, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

@Capriaf: Regarding Joe Rogan, the source originally included said "Gabbard’s fiery anti-establishment stances have earned her support from Joe Rogan...". That doesn't seem like an explicit endorsement. You can "support" lots of candidates and in lots of ways. One of those ways is an endorsement. The source you then added says "Joe Rogan, the popular podcast host, said he planned to vote for her." To me, that is not an endorsement either. You can plan to vote for someone without formally endorsing. This is what #3 of the RfC linked above is all about. Leaving it now because I acknowledge it could be an edge case and worth discussing. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:06, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree. The NYT source merely said that he planned to vote for her.

Here are the three criteria, all of which must be met:

1. The endorser must have an article or be unquestionably entitled to one
2. This endorsement must be covered by reliable and independent sources
3. Coverage of the endorsement needs to use the word endorse, or other closely related synonym. - MrX 🖋 00:38, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Since these criteria are now established, someone should go through all of the 2016 and earlier endorsement pages. Bobbychan193 (talk) 00:46, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. I figured I'd start with 2020, since it's kind of time consuming, but if nobody else does I may come back to the earlier ones later. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

talk, I'm not not capriaf and voting for someone is unequivocal support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.0.106.121 (talk) 01:35, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Indeed, but is "support" synonymous with "endorsement". Lots of people know say who they like, who they'll vote for, etc., but most of those people don't go as far as giving an "endorsement". That's generally seen as a bigger step, and as we get closer to the primaries we'll see lots of stories about such-and-such person expressing support for but not endorsing such-and-such candidate, etc. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)