Talk:Dream with Me

This article was nominated for deletion on 29 April 2011 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

Move?

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dream with Me → Dream With Me –

Even iTunes shows a capital W on "With", meaning it must be correct for this album. They do not capitalize other words we have kept lowercase, such as "a", "of". The manual of style also does not refer to "with" as one of its non-capitalized words. User made move to Dream with Me earlier today, I'm merely asking for a reversal since I can't complete it myself, and then a redirect from Dream with Me to Dream With Me. CycloneGU (talk) 13:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contested Per WP:CAPS. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Did you even look at the iTunes ref.? CycloneGU (talk) 17:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I created that article in the first place based on the iTunes reference when it was still on PRE-ORDER - I think I know what that part of the article is supposed to look like since iTunes literally mirrors our manual of style almost exactly. Some sites capitalize every word, period (even "A"), and I admit on my end I do this with every album title on my hard drive because no one else can control that, but here I do respect the manual of style. I also, however, respect the capitalization used within iTunes as correct. CycloneGU (talk) 18:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Response No, I didn't look at iTunes--their manual of style is irrelevant to ours. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So iTunes is one of our best sources for this type of information (discographies), but yet we have a completely different manual of style regarding the capitalization of one word? I'm not arguing against the manual of style itself; I'm arguing that one word, permitted in iTunes manual of style to be capitalized, should be permitted such on Wikipedia in album and song titles as well. If you want to show me an album title or two that is not capitalized in iTunes, go for it and prove me wrong (and then write iTunes about the inconsistency if you want bonus points). It doesn't change the fact that iTunes employs a manual of style that is almost identical to ours, but because someone wrote a policy here suggesting that "with" should be lowercase we're going to formally disagree with an iTunes source saying that it should be capitalized. So if anything, this should be raised at manual of style (I can do that), and the original location restored pending this discussion as I contest the original move. CycloneGU (talk) 02:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On research, the talk page for WP:CAPS looks like a pointless effort - it's rather inactive. CycloneGU (talk) 02:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Every body of work has their own style guidelines, especially when it comes to title case. Wikipedia's is quite clear that prepositions four letters or less, such as "with", are lowercase in title case. BOVINEBOY2008 11:17, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The existing title properly complies with the style guidelines outlined at WP:CAPS. --DAJF (talk) 02:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Languages

Hi everybody! I'm not experienced in adding a talk on a headline and I'm not english mother tongue speaker, so sorry for that. I also have problems in my accounts (Ruoma or mcarrier), I can't log in nor initialize password. It sends an email with the right address, but I've never received it. I want to make a suggestion about languages mentionned in this article. 4 languages are mentionned in the right array (english, french, italian, latin), but it could be useful to add that it's the languages used in the lyrics of this album. I first thought it could have been languages of foreign versions. Ie : Dream with me released for Italians, for French people. Moreover, I searched occurences of languages to try to understand, but I found nothing. At last, it seems to me there is no latin lyrics in this album. So I suggest you add this information in the article, such as :

Panis Angelicus (not in this album)	Latin
Ombra Mai Fu O Mio Babbino Caro	Italian
Imaginer	French

I hope you'll understand what I mean. Thank you all for reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.227.23.40 (talk) 10:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]