Talk:Detention of Johan Floderus

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A fact from Detention of Johan Floderus appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in September 2023, The New York Times publicly confirmed the detention of Johan Floderus in Iran a year and a half after his arrest?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Johan Floderus (diplomat).

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 07:30, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the arrest and incarceration of Johan Floderus in Iran was first revealed by a New York Times report in September 2023? Source: Original article from The New York Times; Re-adapted from Il Post: "Since April 2022, Iran detains a 33-year-old Swedish diplomat who works as an EU official in a Tehran prison. The news surfaced on Monday, at a year-and-a-half since his arrest, thanks to a New York Times article."
- ALT1: ... that the family of Johan Floderus started a public campaign in support of his liberation from prison in Iran on the day of his 33rd birthday? Source: Original announcement; The New York Times report; Aftonbladet report
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liz O'Riordan
- Comment: Clearly, I want this nomination to be intended as a way to raise awareness about the diplomat's current case, rather than an attempt to "bank in" on the news. I hope the article and the hooks are all correct and accurate enough: moreover, I'm hoping to get my own QPQ review over the line as soon as possible.

Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Johan Floderus (diplomat); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Comment On a side note, like I already explained elsewhere, I've inserted the "(diplomat)" specification to the article's title because, while working on it as a draft, I had realized there was an eponymous philologist and priest who was also registered on Wikidata, so I wanted to avoid confusion. Oltrepier (talk) 14:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article is new & long enough, & seems well-written & neutral. I'm a bit dubious about the first hook - what the NYT did was to identify him. The Swedish government had announced that an unnamed man was detained a year earlier. Maybe refactor. Alt hook is ok. Earwig finds nothing. Johnbod (talk) 00:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: You're probably right, although it's not that simple to find a way out... What about this?

ALT0b: ... that in September 2023, a New York Times report publicly confirmed the detention of Johan Floderus in Iran after a year-and-a-half since his arrest?

P.S. I must address I'm not a native English speaker, so sorry in advance if I'm articulating myself strangely... Oltrepier (talk) 10:27, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's essentially there, but "that in September 2023, a New York Times report publicly confirmed the detention of Johan Floderus in Iran a year-and-a-half after his arrest?" is more idiomatic. As reviewer, I'm not supposed to propose ALT versions. Johnbod (talk) 03:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: That's fine, I can tweak it even further, and then we should be fine:

ALT0c: ... that in September 2023, The New York Times publicly confirmed the detention of Johan Floderus in Iran a year-and-a-half after his arrest? Oltrepier (talk) 20:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, GTG, with ALT1 or, probably better, ALT0c Johnbod (talk) 20:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page move?

Should this article be titled something like Detention of Johan Floderus instead? That would better align with WP:ONEEVENT and the article's content, which is primarily about his detention and Iran's history with detaining foreign citizens. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 15:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The ed17 I'm so sorry, I don't know why I've seen your message just now...

As the article's original creator, I actually agree, since the "Background" section alone makes up for roughly half of the text, and I was able to retrieve just a few details about Floderus' actual biographic details. The question is, would I have to over-haul the lead section to reflect this change (maybe, by even taking off the infobox), or could I leave it as it is? Oltrepier (talk) 10:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you can leave it as-is. I've seen other over event articles that do it that way, e.g. Murder of Sylvia Likens. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 14:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The ed17 Right, thank you so much for your help! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 18:14, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]