Talk:Dear Lord and Father of Mankind

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Did you know... that the popular hymn "Dear Lord and Father of Mankind" is taken from a poem about hallucinogenic drugs by John Greenleaf Whittier?

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the full text should be transwikied to wikisource. dab (ᛏ) 10:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's already there! Have removed and linked. Mdcollins1984 14:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question by EAnnP

A question arises: Since the Sea of Galilee never was in Syria, did the author misinterpret a Hebrew word - or was it just poetic license? Many would see a link between the New Testament miracle of the calming of the stormy sea (Luke 8.24) and Psalm 107.29 which says "He calms the storm, so that its waves are still." The Hebrew word used here for a storm is סערה (transliterated in spoken Hebrew as s'arah) however the consonantal letters would resemble SYRH. Maybe others would like to comment? copied from edit made to article page by EAnnP to talk page by me: —User:MDCollins (talk) 23:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you take a look at Sea of Galilee, the "modern history" section suggests that certainly after the British/French occupations in the 1920s, the lake was divided down the middle, but all parties had fishing rights on it (including Syria). While that is after Whittier's death, there is a big gap in history preceding that invasion missing in that article. In any case, whether Galilee (Lake Tiberias) belongs to Syria or not, it does border it, as [map] indicates (although the Golan Heights are under Israel occupation at the moment), so perhaps Whittier (and others) regarded it as a "Syrian" sea. My knowledge of the region isn't enough to help any more than that I'm afraid, but there is probably enough background there to suggest that the poetic license (if any) is small and that the historical context probably justifies its use in the hymn. There is also enough New Testament background regarding Syria as being an important area in during the time of Jesus. Whether the Sea is Syrian now or not is a rather moot point, because it would be rather pointless changing texts every time the political situation changes.—User:MDCollins (talk) 11:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bold, revert, discuss

Feline Hymnic, Newbycpa, please stop communicating your disagreements in edit summaries. The WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle asks that once your edit is reverted you discuss the change on the article's talk page, not that you keep reverting each other and making the article unstable. Your mutual reverts may be happening too slowly for WP:3RR to apply but you are still edit warring. Cabayi (talk) 07:53, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be kind of you to offer solutions rather than complaints. This is a lot of trouble for one sentence. I'm still not sure why there is a problem with good information being on that page. 2605:A601:AA55:9C00:C5F5:26FB:13BC:B3AB (talk) 15:00, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newbycpa, without trying to put words in Feline Hymnic's mouth, is it good information? You're mot providing reliable, verifiable, independent sources for it? Cabayi (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]