Talk:Deakin University/Archive 1

Archive 1

notes

For a university there is a sincere lack of information on the academic institution itself and a lot of info about the student union and the clubs and societies. I would suggest splitting the DUSA4U info to another page (probably with the info about the clubs and societies) and expand the article with more information about the university itself -- CHANLORD ^[T]/_[C] 04:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ick. The DUSA4U stuff is just puff, and I think needs to be fried and a decent Deakin University Students' Association article written. The clubs and societies stuff could just be fried as well, I think - I really don't think anyone cares enough about individual campus clubs and societies to warrant splitting them off anywhere. And unfortunately, that doesn't leave much left. Ambi 04:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Although I beliebe DUSA4U looks after the clubs and societies. So for now, I'll split the article to Deakin University Students' Association. I'll see if I can dig up more info on the university institution itself, apart from where it is -- CHANLORD ^[T]/_[C] 04:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

In the meantime, I've just taken an axe to the fluff. Thoughts? Ambi 04:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I've split it into another article. And made it less "adverty". I didn't touch the clubs and socities stuff. just copy and pasted. I'll go through that when I get time. *goes back to work* -- CHANLORD ^[T]/_[C] 04:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed

motto =Doctrina Perpetua ("Forever Learning")

Deakin university does not have a motto at the current time. It may have had one in the past, but certainly not anymore --Maverick05 13:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

And just how have you removed it? It is still there, and the history page does not show any attempt to do so.

Now that makes me feel almost as stupid as the person who put it there in the first place!!! --Maverick05 10:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Useless, irrelevant information

There seems to be a lot of stuff on this page that is irrelevant and useless. I think some people are starting to lose site of the purpose of Wikipedia. If someone is coming to the Deakin page they aren't looking for information on criminal alumni. This page is about the university. If someone is looking up a criminal they can look at his page. A criminal alumni has no relevancy to the University. Other Alumni, celebrities, academics, politicians. They are people in the public mind, that is information that is relevant to the University. Did Craig Minogue get a degree from Deakin? sure, but who wants to know that when they are looking up Deakin.

Secondly a controversy section is overall a bit strange, but could we limit it again to ones that are relevant. The issues with Fraser, and Bagaric are relevant to the university at the moment. Something that happened more than 20 years ago, before the university even became what it is, has no relevancy to this page what so ever. This is a page about DEAKIN, keep info on it to info that is relevant to the university as it is today.

I agree with you on removing that "controversy" paragraph, as it wasn't much of a controversy and was so old as to be not worth worrying about. However, as with every other university article, Deakin has a section for famous alumni, and it just so happens that a notable criminal is a Deakin alumni. For that reason, I'm reverting your removal of Minogue. Rebecca 00:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Im not going to remove it just yet, but i want to ask. You’ve said that Minogue was a notable criminal. I agree, but how is that relevant to the University. If someone is looking for info on Craig Minogue they will look him up. Info on the Deakin page should be relevant to Deakin. Whether a politician went to a university is relevant to the University. That information adds something to the university. Emma Alberici, Phillip Aspinall and Julie Attwood all people who are in the public eye now. Knowing these people went to Deakin is relevant is information people should know about the university. Someone who commited a crime 20 years ago who never actually went to the university and completed a course via correspondance is pretty irrelevant and not something people would want nor need to know about Deakin

Minogue is an alumni of Deakin, and is himself notable, so he goes on that list. I really don't see any difference between that, and the cases of Emma Alberici, Phillip Aspinall and Julie Attwood, except that the latter have gone on to do slightly more beneficial things post-degree. Rebecca 06:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

You're showing your lack of knowledge there. First of all Minogue only completed his degree a few years ago. He never actually set foot on a Deakin campus and completed his course in Prison. The difference between him and the others is that he isn't notable now. The last time Minogue did anything in the public view was nearly 20 years and even that was murdering another prisoner. So the difference that you can't see. One is on TV every few days reporting news the other hasn't been mentioned in the public domain for almost 20 years. One is the leader of a major religion in brisbane the others only achievements in live have involved killing people 20 years ago. Do you see where im going?

I'm sure more people have heard of Minogue than have heard of Attwood, a low-profile backbencher in the Queensland state parliament. That, however, is beside the point. You admitted yourself that Minogue was notable. Just because someone is well known for something that happened twenty years ago, and just because that something happens to be negative, does not mean they are not alumni, does not mean that they are not notable alumni, and thus, means that they go in the alumni section of their respective university article. Rebecca 08:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

He was notable, but that was 20 years ago. He has done nothing of note since then. Secondly his notable for something that is negative not something i think needs promoting. Attwood is notable NOW. Minogue has done nothing of note for 20 years and that thing was a negative and that thing had nothing to do with Deakin since it occoured almost 20 years before he enrolled in a correspondance call from his prison cell.

To my knowledge, Attwood has had nothing to do with Deakin either since her degree. You yourself have admitted that Minogue is notable enough for an article. As such, there is no reason to remove it. Rebecca 01:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Difference - Attwood completed degree then became notable. Minogue became notable, 20 years past by, he stopped being in the public eye, then he completed degree. His time at Deakin had nothing to do with him being notable where as Attwoods time at Deakin was relevant to her life later on as her work in parliment is in the present and happened after her time at Deakin. My point is that Attwoods success and noteriaty is linked in some way to her time at Deakin. Deakin certainly had nothing to do with Minogue's noteriaty. Im not claiming that what Minogue did was something that should be forgotten. Im not saying that what he did was not notable. However if we look at the past ten years, which includes with generous margins his association with Deakin he has done nothing of note. In that time he is just a worthless criminal who just happened to be studying. Is he notable? yes. Is his notability in any way relevant to Deakin? NO

All of this is irrelevant to the issue of whether he should go on this list. He is a notable person. He is a notable person who graduated from Deakin. He is a notable person who graduated from Deakin who has a Wikipedia article. These three criteria would qualify anyone else for a mention in the alumni section of their respective university, and I see no reason to make an exception for Minogue. Rebecca 06:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Allan Lim

Is Allan Lim actually notable, in an encyclopedic sense? 22 is young to have a PhD, but I'm sure he's not the only one in the world. Thedangerouskitchen 12:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. I've removed it before, but it keeps coming back. Rebecca 01:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Number of Students

The 100,000 students claim comes from adding 65,000 professional students to the 32,000 award students. Seeing as these students are not studying for a registered award course of the University, I do not think they should count in any way, except under "DeakinPrime". I don't think it is reasonable for a person taking a six week night course in Excel to be counted the same way as a fully enrolled full time PhD student. The 65,000 are largely made up of short, workplace related courses, which hire Deakin for its computer labs, or to give supermarket employees a accounting up to a cash register standard. PfkaH 10:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Fourth University Commission

I recently changed the article "Fourth University Commission" into a redirect, and put its content in the "History" section of this article. I also de-linked bare years, based on a previous version of WP:MOSDATE that discouraged frequent linking of years, preferring to link only full month-day-year combinations. I see since the last time I had read that guideline, that it has changed and now says, There is less agreement about links to years. Some editors believe that links to years are generally useful to establish context for the article. Others believe that links to years are rarely useful to the reader and reduce the readability of the text.

An editor reverted the merge on this page, but did not revert the merge in Fourth University Commission, which is still a redirect. The edit summary stated that the merge was "badly done" and that de-linking years was "against" WP:MOSDATE.

I'm curious as to what specific objections there were to how I did the merge? I would like to fix any mistakes I made. Also, do other editors find that year links are useful in that section? As the relevant guideline appears to not address this issue, I guess year-linking works on a page-by-page consensus. Lyrl ^Talk _C 03:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Costa Hall

As no one has actually started a discussion about this merger...I'm all for it. Costa doesn't need to be in a separate article; it isn't THAT notable a hall. Comments? --Stretch 08:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree. PfkaH 13:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Done --Stretch 10:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Motion.Lab

I think the addition of the motion capture studio should be integrated into this. Someone wanna do it? I'll write in a bit if no-one else wants to. Electriceel [ə.lɛk.tʃɹɪk il] 15:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Project

Hello, my name is Andrea. I am a student from Mexico City. My major is International Business. I was wondering if you could help me with a project i am doing. I would like to have some more information about this University. Me and my team are considering to go abroad, that is why we want more information. We will really appreciate it. Thank you!Blueapple23 23:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)Blueapple23

John Brumby

Isn't it a bit misleading to say that John Brumby is a Deakin graduate? He went to Victoria College at Rusden. It was not then, nor is it now, a part of Deakin. It was only a part of Deakin for a brief period in the 1990s, and has now been turned into student accomodation. Does anyone think it should be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Profb21 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

All former students of predecessor institutions that merged with Deakin are eligible to join Deakin University Alumni. The teaching courses that were offered at the Rusden campus of Victoria College were transferred to the university's Burwood campus before the site was sold to Monash for their student accommodation purposes. The Burwood campus is the current location of Deakin's extensive education programs. If the site had been given to Monash - that is courses and site together, John may, possibly, have been eligble to become a Monash alumus.

It has to be done like this because once Victoria College merges (like other institutions such as Chisholm Institute - now Monash Caulfied, or Philip Institute - now RMIT Bundoora) it loses its existence. Former graduates cannot belong to an institution that no longer exists. In addition, it is an endorsement by a recognised university of the academic standards of Victoria College that had prevailed at the time of the merger and as such are considered Deakin graduates even though the actual qualification may not state "Deakin University" on it. As far as academic transcripts are concerned, I am not sure if they are printed on Deakin letterhead documents. Jaker5 11:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Law school merge

Note - I've added a merge tag to the article based on discussion at now closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deakin Law School - Peripitus (Talk) 11:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merger

• Merge, There is not enough notability of Deakin Law School to justify its own article. Michellecrisp (talk) 00:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Modifying Infobox University

I added profess= to Template InfoBox:University yet it is not showing up in Deakin University's infobox. Why is that?

Also, I added doctoral= to Deakin, yet, when saved, it shows..."Doctoral Students"...where does the word "Students" come from?

Ta.

Not sure where to put this but i believe the university colours are wrong. The blue and Gold were the sporting colours of the Geelong campuses when each campus had its own sporting teams, but when the teams intergrated they now use the Melbourne colours of White with blue and green. Not sure if the uni has some other use for colors, but these are the sporting colours —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.108.86 (talk) 13:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

The Cube

Just a note that I have removed two statements regarding The Cube from the article in recent days. From my understanding via social media, this has been done by students attending the university who may not be aware of policies regarding verifiability, and the Cube is not an official mascot of the university. -- sandgemADDICT ^yeah? 07:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

COI tag

article has been subject of editing by people connected to Deakin, per tags in the bottom of the beige box at the top of this page. The article needs to be reviewed by an independent editor for NPOV and sourcing before the tag is removed - if you review it and remove the tag, please make a note here. Jytdog (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest Noticeboard Discussion

Please note that there is currently a discussion regarding edits to this page at the Conflict of Interest noticeboard. -- sandgemADDICT ^yeah? 11:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced content 1

The following is almost all unsourced and is kind of promotional. Needs to be sourced and made neutral before it goes live again, per the policies WP:V and WP:NPOV; see also WP:PROMO (policy) and WP:BOOSTER, a helpful essay about writing about universities.

Campuses

Geelong Waterfront Campus

Deakin University Geelong Waterfront Campus. Cunningham Pier is in the foreground.

The Geelong Waterfront Campus (38.1439°S 144.3603°E / -38.1439; 144.3603 (Deakin University, Waterfront Campus)) is Deakin's newest campus, located on Corio Bay, in the central business district of Geelong. Originally built as the Dalgety's Woolstores in 1893, the buildings have been extensively renovated to create a modern campus centre, whilst retaining most of the original internal elements.

More than 4,300 (A.D. 2014) students are based at the Geelong Waterfront Campus, which hosts the schools of: Architecture & Building, Health & Social Development, Business & Law and Nursing. The schools offer courses in architecture and construction management, nursing, occupational therapy and social work and business and law

Services and facilities include a 320-seat lecture theatre, cafe, Library, bookshop, 24‑hour computer laboratories, 24‑hour on site security, medical centre and counselling services, multi-faith prayer rooms, Computer Aided Design (CAD) laboratories, purpose built occupational therapy laboratory and design studios.

A $37 million redevelopment of the Dennys Lascelles Building has increased the capacity of this campus, allowing the University to provide an expanded range of courses. The building houses the Alfred Deakin Prime Ministerial Library and the Alfred Deakin Research Institute, an interdisciplinary teaching and research centre covering political science, public policy and governance, international relations, globalisation, journalism and communications.

Geelong Waurn Ponds Campus

The original campus of Deakin University (38.1979°S 144.2973°E / -38.1979; 144.2973 (Deakin University, Waurn Ponds Campus)) is located in the regional city of Geelong in the suburb of Waurn Ponds, 72 kilometres south west of Melbourne. The campus, serviced by the Princes Highway and the Geelong Ring Road, is approximately 5 kilometres from the Geelong Central Business District and is in close proximity to Bells Beach and the Great Ocean Road and has a student population of 6,728 (2014) pursuing courses in arts, education, engineering, management, media and communication, medicine, health sciences, information technology, psychology and science.

Services and facilities include a fitness club and sports hall, tennis courts, walking/running track and sporting fields (cricket, football, soccer, gridiron, archery, golf driving range), library, bookshop, 24‑hour computer laboratories, 24‑hour on-site security, medical centre and counselling services, multi-faith prayer rooms and cafe and food outlets. Single room accommodation is provided for 784 students in a mixed gender, multicultural environment. The campus is home to the Geelong Technology Precinct, which provides research and development capabilities and opportunities for university–industry partnerships and new enterprises in the region.

Deakin University has opened a brand new high quality 309 bed studio apartment complex in Geelong featuring fully furnished, self-contained and self-catered apartments, with an ensuite and kitchenette in each studio.

The Deakin Medical School opened in 2008 and is the first rural and regional medical school in Victoria. Deakin's Bachelor of Medicine Bachelor of Surgery MBBS is a four-year, graduate-entry program which prepares students for practice in a range of health care settings.

Melbourne Burwood Campus

Deakin University Melbourne Burwood Campus

The largest campus of the University is in Melbourne's eastern suburb of Burwood (37.8479°S 145.1143°E / -37.8479; 145.1143 (Deakin University, Melbourne Campus)), on Burwood Highway, about 45 minutes by tram (route 75) from the Melbourne CBD. Located alongside Gardiner's Creek parklands between Elgar Road on the north-west border and Mount Scopus Memorial College on the east border, it has had a number of new multi-story buildings constructed in recent years and the campus has about 26,060 (2014) undergraduate and postgraduate on-campus students pursuing courses in arts, business, education, environment, health sciences, information technology, law, management, media and communication, nursing, psychology, public health and health promotion, science, sport and visual, performing and creative arts.

Some facilities at the Melbourne campus include multi-story car parks, the Deakin University Art Gallery, Motion.Lab - motion capture facility, Telstra Trading Room, a purpose built gymnasium and sports hall, cafes, food outlets and a bar, the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) Test Centre, bookshop, a refurbished Library, 24‑hour computer laboratories, 24‑hour on-site security, medical centre and counselling services and multi-faith prayer rooms. The campus provides single room on-campus accommodation for 600 students in a mixed gender and multicultural environment.

Warrnambool Campus

The Warrnambool Campus (38.3906°S 142.5373°E / -38.3906; 142.5373 (Deakin University, Warrnambool campus)) is situated on the banks of the Hopkins River in the coastal city of Warrnambool, close to local surf beaches and popular tourist attractions in close proximity to the Great Ocean Road and The Twelve Apostles. The 94 hectare site is approximately five kilometres from the Warrnambool CBD, serviced by the Princes Highway and by its own railway station, and bus services from Melbourne and Geelong, as well as locally in Warrnambool between the campus and the city.

There is an on-campus student population of more than 1,135 (2014) pursuing courses in arts, business, education, environment, health sciences, law, management, marine biology, nursing and psychology.

On-campus facilities include a comprehensive Library, fitness club, basketball, netball and tennis courts and a golf course, medical centre and counselling services, 24‑hour computer laboratories, 24‑hour on-site security, cafe, bookshop and multi-faith prayer rooms. The campus has 25 accommodation units with between four and 21 bedrooms per unit, providing on-campus accommodation for 240 students in a mixed gender and multicultural environment.

In addition, Deakin University has opened a brand new high quality 102-bed studio apartment complex in Warrnambool. The apartments will be fully furnished, self-contained and self-catered, with an ensuite bathroom and kitchenette in each studio.

Study modes

Deakin University is a major provider of academic programs by distance education. Deakin has the following study modes available to students:

• campus (previously on campus) – the dominant mode of unit delivery is through attendance at classes or seminars at a Deakin campus, centre, affiliated industry or other physical site. Students also access some learning experiences and resources in the University's online environment.
• cloud (previously off-campus) – the dominant mode of unit delivery is by accessing learning experiences and resources in the University's online environment. Students may also access some face-to-face learning experiences at a physical site.

Many full-time and part-time students are able to tailor their courses to meet their needs and circumstances. Nearly 12,335 students enrolled at Deakin University study in cloud mode. Students enrolled in cloud units study the same units as campus students except instead of attending classes, they receive course and study materials online. Many courses have a residential component, which provides opportunities for face-to-face networking with other students and staff.

References

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History

Deakin University was formally established in 1974 with the passage of the Deakin University Act 1974. Deakin was Victoria's fourth university, the first to be established in regional Victoria and the first to specialise in distance education.

Deakin University's first campus was established at Waurn Ponds. The University was the result of a merger between State College of Victoria, Geelong (formerly Geelong Teachers College) and the higher education courses of the Gordon Institute of Technology. Deakin enrolled its first students at Waurn Ponds in 1977.

The Burwood campus is on the site of the former Burwood Teachers' College, and also takes in the former sites of the Bennettswood Primary School and the Burwood Secondary School. The teachers' college conducted two-year training courses for Primary School teachers, and three year courses for Infant Teachers (females only). It provided live-on-site accommodation for country students.

A merger with Warrnambool Institute of Advanced Education took place in 1990. This was followed by a merger with most of Victoria College in 1991, with its campuses in Burwood, Rusden and Toorak.

The Rusden Campus was closed in 2003 and all courses were transferred to the Melbourne campus at Burwood. Rusden subsequently acquired by Monash University for its student accommodation purposes.

The former Toorak Campus, located in Malvern, was sold in 2007 as the University considered the campus surplus to its requirements. The courses and resources were relocated to the Melbourne campus at Burwood in November 2007.

As a Deakin campus, it was home to Deakin Business School, Deakin University English Language Institute, and the Melbourne Institute of Business and Technology, which have since relocated to the International Centre and Business Building on the Melbourne campus at Burwood.

The main building on the site is the 116-year-old historic Stonnington Mansion and is located amongst traditional gardens. The Stonnington Stables art gallery and the University's contemporary art collection were located here, but has since relocated to the Deakin University Art Gallery at the Melbourne campus at Burwood.

The sale of the campus provoked public outrage as it involved the mansion which was at risk of redevelopment by property developers.

References

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Governance

The Deakin University Council is the governing body of the University and is chaired by the Chancellor, David Morgan. Council is responsible for the general direction and oversight of the University and is publicly accountable for the University's actions.

The Vice-Chancellor is the Chief Executive Officer of the university and is responsible to Council. Professor Jane den Hollander is Vice-Chancellor and President of Deakin University and is Deakin's 6th Vice-Chancellor. Professor den Hollander is a cellular biologist turned university administrator and was previously Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Academic) at Curtin University in Western Australia.

Vice-Chancellors

• 1977-1985 - Frederic Jevons
• 1986-1991 - Malcolm Skilbeck
• 1992-1996 - John A. Hay
• 1997-2002 - Geoff Wilson
• 2003-2010 - Sally Walker
• 2010–present - Jane den Hollander

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Research

Deakin is one of Australia's fastest growing research universities. Its combined research funding had increased from A$4.5 million in 1997 to A$43.4 million in 2014.

The Australian Research Council awarded Deakin University 3 Linkage grants in its 2013 allocations. In its 2010 allocations, the Australian Research Council awarded Deakin 13 Discovery and 10 Linkage Round 1 awards. The wins placed Deakin 16th in the number of Discovery Grants awarded and equal 6th in the number of Linkage grants awarded amongst Australian Universities.

Deakin received the highest rating possible for its research in Macromolecular and Materials Chemistry, Materials Engineering, Human Movement and Sports Science, Pharmacology and Pharmaceutical Sciences and in Medical Physiology. The university's research was also found to be above world standard in Physical Chemistry, Environmental Science and Management, Manufacturing Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Nanotechnology, Zoology, Nutrition and Dietetics, Public Health and Health Services and Performing Arts and Creative Writing.

It has developed meaningful, reciprocal research and educational partnerships in India with the official opening of the Deakin India Research Institute (DIRI) in Hyderabad and more than 50 other Indian research partners.

References

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Awards and achievements

Deakin has won the prestigious Australian University of the Year award twice. The first award came in 1995-1996 for "Outstanding Technology in Education" in which the then Prime Minister of Australia, Paul Keating presented Deakin with the award and commended it on its success despite its lack of "sandstones" referring to its short period of existence as a university.

On 25 August 1999, Deakin won its second award when it tied with the University of Wollongong to win the 1999-2000 prize. Deakin's success was for its "Outstanding Education and Training Partnerships". In presenting the award, the Federal Treasurer Peter Costello commended Deakin and Wollongong in stating: "These are two great institutions. They are the best of the best at what they do".

Deakin has received many academic awards and high rankings by various independent research organisations, including:

• Top 3 per cent of the world's universities in each of the three major rankings (Times Higher Education, Academic Ranking of World Universities and Quacquarelli Symonds)
• 5-star rated university, awarded by the prestigious university ranking organisation Quacquarelli Symonds (QS)
• Awarded Oceania Regional prize in the QS Wharton Stars Reimagine Education awards for innovative Higher Education pedagogies in 2014
• Sector leader for student satisfaction, first in Victoria for five consecutive years (Australian Graduate Survey 2011-2015)

Five of Deakin's researchers have been included in the Thomson Reuters annual listing of researchers most cited in academic journals, ranked in the top one per cent of researchers in their field. The listed researchers are: Alfred Deakin Professors David Crawford, Jo Salmon, Kylie Ball and Associate Professor Anna Timperio, all from Deakin's Centre for Physical Activity and Nutrition Research (C-PAN), and Alfred Deakin Professor Michael Berk, Director of the Centre for Innovation in Mental and Physical Health and Clinical Treatment (IMPACT).

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Notable alumni

• Emma Alberici, journalist/presenter with the ABC
• Most Rev Phillip Aspinall, Primate of the Anglican Church in Australia: MBA
• Julie Attwood, Member of Legislative Assembly of Queensland
• Jimmy Bartel, 2007 Brownlow Medallist and triple AFL Premiership Player in 2007, 2009 and 2011 with the Geelong Football Club. 2011 Norm Smith medallist
• Mark Blake, 2009 AFL Premiership player with the Geelong Football Club
• Campbell Brown, 2008 AFL Premiership player with Hawthorn Football Club and inaugural Gold Coast Football Club player: BCom (Sports Management)
• John Brumby, former Premier and Treasurer of the State of Victoria: Dip Ed
• Mark Butler MP, Federal Member for Port Adelaide
• Tim Callan, AFL footballer with the Western Bulldogs: BCom
• Briony Cole, Gold medalist, 2006 Commonwealth Games, & Silver medalist, 2008 Beijing Olympics
• Neil Comrie, Former Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police: BA (Police Studies)
• Andrew Conway, Chief Executive Officer, Institute of Public Accountants: BCom, BTeach
• Rodger Corser, Australian actor: Honours B.A in Media Studies
• Brett Cousins, Australian actors
• Trish Crossin, Senator for Northern Territory
• [Wing Commander John Crowe (retired).] RAAF pilot and former commanding officer of No. 11 Squadrn. BA (strategic studies).
• Peter Daniel, Former footballer for Essendon Football Club, AFL: DipTeach
• Colonel Benito T. de Leon, Military Officer, Philippines Army: MA (Strategic Studies)
• Janet Dore, CEO Transport Accident Commission Victoria
• Oliver Feltham, contemporary philosopher and English translator of Alain Badiou's Being and Event (2006)
• Simon Garlick, CEO of the Western Bulldogs: BExSc
• Ben Graham, Former Geelong Football Club star, now a punter for the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League; first Australian to play in the Super Bowl: BCom
• Rosalie Ham, author, best known for The Dressmaker: BEd
• Tom Harley, Dual Premiership Captain of Geelong Football Club in 2007 and 2009: BCom
• Geoff Hunt, World Champion Squash Player: Grad Dip (Nutrition)
• Major General Mark Kelly, Officer of the Australian Army: Grad.Dip. Defence Studies
• Jill Kokinos, Former board member of National Electrical and Communications Association: MBA, BEd
• Arthur Vivian Lucas Jones, Bishop of the Anglican Church in Australia
• Christopher Lynch, Former Chief Financial Officer & Former Director of BHP Billiton, CEO of Transurban Ltd: BCom, MBA
• Margaret Madden, Director, Notre Dame Institute of Education, Pakistan 2001-2011
• Senator Bridget McKenzie, Senator for Victoria
• Michael Malouf, Former Chief Executive Officer, Carlton Football Club: MBA
• Carmen Marton, Australia's first ever world taekwondo champion
• Lindsay Maxsted, Chairman Westpac Banking Corporation
• Mat McBriar, punter for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League
• Anne Minter, Former International Tennis player on the WTA circuit
• Elizabeth Minter, Former International Tennis player on the WTA circuit
• Dr Denis Napthine, Premier of the State of Victoria: MBA
• Livinia Nixon, Nine Network Weather presenter: BCom, BA
• Henry Playfair, AFL footballer with the Sydney Swans: BCom
• Kiara Podesta, 2006 NRE Miss India Australia. 2006 Miss India World Contestant.
• Kathryn Sheffield, remote sensing, BS
• Jim Stynes OAM, Businessman and Chairman of Melbourne Football Club: BEd

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Notable associates

• Frank Costa Businessman and Philanthropist
• Lindsay Fox Businessman and Philanthropist
• Brett Lee Australian Cricketer and Deakin India Research Institute (DIRI) associate
• Denis Napthine Victorian Premier and Politician
• Jeff Rowley Big Wave Surfer, Adventure Waterman, and Celebrity Speaker

References

- Jytdog (talk) 05:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

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Notable faculty

• Associate Professor Kate Buchanan ARC Future Fellow
• Dr Tania de Koning-Ward, Commonwealth Health Minister's Medal for Excellence in Health and Medical Research
• Professor Peter Hodgson, 2009 Australian Laureate Fellow
• John Jonas, Birks Professor of Metallurgy, McGill University: Visiting Professor.
• Ross Oakley, Former Australian Football League CEO: Adjunct Professor in the Faculty of Business and Law
• Hugh O'Neill, University of Melbourne: Adjunct Professor, Cultural Heritage Centre for Asia and the Pacific.
• Meredith Newman, Chair of the Department of Public Administration Florida International University and President of the national American Society for Public Administration: .
• David Parkin, Former coach of Carlton and Hawthorn Football Clubs: Lecturer in Exercise Science.
• Justice Mark Weinberg, Chief Justice of Norfolk Island: Adjunct Professor, School of Law.
• Alfred Deakin Professor Michael Berk, school of medicine. Michael Berk has made significant contributions to modern psychiatry, including in the testing of novel therapeutics (e.g. acetylcysteine) in neuropsychiatric disease states like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and autism.
• Jim Kennan, Former Politician, Adjunct Professor of Law

References

- Jytdog (talk) 05:25, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Remnant of recent edits?

Irrelevant sentence to existing content that can be removed There is a sentence, "The sale of Stonnington Mansion provoked public outrage as it involved the mansion which was at risk of redevelopment by property developers.[5] " in the opening para. This para must act as a concise and self contained representation. The article does not talk of Stonnington. The link associated with the word Stonnington does show the building was acquired in a series of mergers leading to its becoming the property of the Deakin University and was sold by them later.

I cae to read about this as a reference to the University and to assess its nature. The article seems to have been shorn of much content for being unsourced. The remaining material did not cater to a typical user's need. At any rate the remaining note on the controversy seems to eb totally irrelevant in this context. Neither does it get any elaborate mention within the article,controversy in any way relevant to assessing a university, which would perhaps be the most useful factor oft his article. I urge the primary editors to remove this sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.36.190 (talk) 04:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Webhost

User:Bilby - about this ... In my view, this is content that is on their website and is sourced only to their website; there isn't independent sourcing showing that this is noteworthy and deserves any WEIGHT here - it is not encyclopedic but rather brochure. Would you please explain your reasoning for including this here - how is this not a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST? Jytdog (talk) 16:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm a bit lost. What in WP:NOTWEBHOST do you feel that it violates? It isn't related to dating, file storage, an memorial, or encyclopedia-related projects, and it isn't a personal homepage. Maybe I'm missing something? But I'm not sure which it is failing. - Bilby (talk) 21:19, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Its a very short extension of #1 listed there... editors often want to replicate company/organization websites here in WP. That's "not" what WP is for... Jytdog (talk) 21:28, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

1 doesn't mention anything about replicating company/organization websites, as far as I can tell. #1 seems to be about user pages. - Bilby (talk) 22:36, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

spirit. The spirit of #1 is that "Wikipedia is not a webhost" We are not here to used as someone's personal website. The same is true for organizations and companies; it is exactly parallel. (organizations and companies are, under the law, "people", to get hyper-technical) But I don't want to wikilawyer this. The big picture in NOT is that WP articles should be encyclopedic - summarizing accepted knowledge so that people can learn, and per the other policies we follow secondary sources that express accepted knowledge. Replicating content from an organization's website is just acting like a proxy for the organization or as a directory; there is nothing to learn from it. It is WP:NOT what we are here to do. I take you from your edit and your remarks above that you don't see it that way. So hm! Jytdog (talk) 23:05, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not really inclined to turn to vague "spirit of the thing" as a justification. The "spirit" of #1 is that you can't uses your personal user page as a means of self promotion or personal amusement. We can't really stretch that to say that we are not allowed to include organisational structure on an article about a university in mainspace.

The second point is worth discussing. What is unencyclopedic about the core structure of a university, and a list of their research institutes? Would you be happier if this was in prose? I'll see if I can convert it this way - perhaps a raw list is off-putting. - Bilby (talk) 00:02, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

The spirit of the policies and guidelines is what matters most~=! I've been considering adding "or company website" to that part of NOT and will eventually propose it. The list in my view is just a laundry list, like an index page of (their) website. Jytdog (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

That's all fine, and I'm certainly open to an argument about why a list of the organisational structure of a university is inappropriate for an article about the university. But it seems the discussion won't be viable if based on NOTWEBHOST. - Bilby (talk) 01:38, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

We don't see this the same way which is surprising to me. In my view this kind of laundry list is really mundane wrong-headed editing that attempts to make Wikipedia into webhosts for their subjects; there is no context - nothing that says why the structure matters which means nothing that says why it should be in WP. I get it that you don't see it that way and i don't know how to communicate it any better than I have. I won't revert but I really don't understand why this should be in WP. I am moving on. Jytdog (talk) 02:36, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Removal of sexual assault section

167.30.61.3, you've removed the reliably sourced claim that there were 40 officially reported cases of sexual abuse on campus at Deakin University. Could you explain how this is not related to the subject of Deakin University? Because you're not a registered user I will have to revert your edit again to notify you of this message. Cjhard (talk) 10:32, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

this is part of a drive by edit solely designed to damage the university, based on one study. I clearer directed at staff of the University as it states no students were suspend or expelled. University are public open space and all campuses have security, the source itself states that the information gathered from students didn't include the location of the alleged event just as to whether they have experienced any sexual harassment which is in itself open to interpretation. No University disputed the fact that sexual harassment is unacceptable nor that there is always way in which they could help to reduce the number of incidents through education, this isn't controversial in any way it nothing more than a once off news item, beside with this one person the report has gained any significant coverage beyond its 24-48 hours of limelight i.e. its a not news item and should be removed... which I have done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.30.61.3 (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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