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Vandalism

The page has been heavily vandalised. I will look into getting it locked. User383739 23:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Joining the Cypriot National Guard

Could I join the the Cypriot National Guard full time if i moved to Cyprus. I am english non cypriot speaking starting to learn. I love the Island i am currently serving in the British Army due to leave in 2009. Many thanks Kenny —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenny030 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are serious intentions for Cypriot National Guard to dicrease months of concsription.

New update May 2015

I am in the process of extensively updating and enlarging this article, and providing many more refs. Copperhead331 (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

US

How is it that the US is one of its biggest suppliers if the the US has an embargo on them? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:5B84:E38:D486:297B:3E15:721 (talk) 22:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To answer that question, you arent. Im not quite sure who gave you that information but its wrong, in fact, virtually none of our equipment is of American design, only 1 of our helicopters and some weapons our Special Forces use are of American design and even those weapons are only used in very specific teams so yeah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Patriot (talk • contribs) 12:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling error in the emblem

There's a typo in the image of the emblem of the national guard.

http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Emblem of the Cypriot National Guard.svg

The heading reads "ΕΘΝΙΚΗ ΦΡΟΥΑ", but the correct spelling is "ΕΘΝΙΚΗ ΦΡΟΥΡΑ".

I found an image of the emblem with the correct spelling on the Greek wiki:

http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/el/d/dc/Cypriot National Guard emblem.png

The Spanish wiki uses a different image, but with the correct spelling, like the one in the Greek wiki:

http://up.wiki.x.io/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Εθνική_Φρουρά.png

The French and Italian wikis use the image that the English wiki uses (the one with the wrong spelling).

Numbers

This page has some severely outdated (and wrong) information and opinions in it so I'm going to explain what Im going to change and why (Giving sources where I can). So the 12k and 75k numbers are severely outdated (From 2008 I believe) and Im going to make the most recent changes. I believe the numbers are now 20k Active, and 100k Active Reserves. Im also going to take down the opinion "The way in which the semi-professionalization has been conducted has been illustrated as unprofessional and undermining the ability of the force, by academic researchers." As I have looked up for that source and there is literally nothing online that pops up even on politis newspaper and from personal experience, there has been nothing done "unprofessionally" and for media to be silent on it (Especially on my island), then odds are that if the article ever did exist, it was just an opinion. Furthermore, I'm going to take down the turkish from the article as only GreekCypriots serve in the military and the National Guard does nothing with relation to the turkish armed forces or even government (So I'm not actually sure why it was there in the first place but uh, yeah). I'll also be adding our defence budget for Cyprus (Approx. $300 million but can fluctuate some years). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Patriot (talk • contribs) 11:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

@Alessandro57 The reason the Greek and English versions are the only ones there are irrespective of the official languages are there due to the fact that the Cypriot National Guard (In contrast with the previous Cyprus army which existed between 1960-1963), was formed after the events of 1963 and in accordance with the relevant legislation, there is no Turkish Cypriot participation in the National Guard, meaning that this is an in extremis case.^[1] This is one of the few areas in the Cypriot government where Turkish Cypriot participation is directly prohibited. ShovelandSpade (talk) 15:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering. I know the history of the guard: participation is one thing, but official language is another thing, and turkish is an official language in Cyprus. Do you mean that in the official documents in turkish of the Republic of Cyprus for the national guard only the greek name is used? Moreover, i don't see any reference to what you affirm in your source. Alex2006 (talk) 06:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Im saying that the National Guard prohibits or more specifically the Ministry of Defense prohibits T/C participation since the creation of the National Guard in 1964 as Greek Cypriots joined the CNG and Turkish Cypriots joined Turkish militias and now the Security Forces Command. Unlike in other sectors of the Republic where there is T/C participation, the armed forces are the exception.^[2]^[3] Hence why it is referred to also as the "Greek Cypriot National Guard".^[4] My overall point being that in this particular case, official languages are irrelevant due to both the non-participation from the T/C community but also due to the fact that the Cypriot National Guard was formed purely for the sake of the Greek Cypriot population.^[5] ShovelandSpade (talk) 11:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ "60 Χρόνια ΕΦ - Γενικό Επιτελείο Εθνικής Φρουράς - Gov.cy". www.gov.cy (in Greek). Retrieved 2024-12-09.
^ "Cyprus - Finabel". finabel.org. 2020-05-20. Retrieved 2024-12-10.
^ Polignosi. "Εθνική Φρουρά". www.polignosi.com. Retrieved 2024-12-10.
^ Χρυσοστόμου, Άγγελος Μ (2013). "Από τον Κυπριακό Στρατό μέχρι και τη δημιουργία της Εθνικής Φρουράς (1959-1964) : η διοικητική δομή, στελέχωση, συγκρότηση και οργάνωση του Κυπριακού Στρατού και η δημιουργία ένοπλων ομάδων-οργανώσεων στις δύο κοινότητες". Gnosis.
^ Moisi, Evangelina; Zachariades, Alexandros (4 May 2021). "Performing Identity: The Case of the (Greek) Cypriot National Guard". Wiley. 21 (1). The most profound link between Greece and the CNG can be found at the pinnacle of the CNG's organizational structure. The CNG maintains strong links with the Hellenic Armed Forces (HAF) by having active or former Greek officers in important positions in its hierarchy, alongside its own Greek-Cypriot officers who undergo years of training in Greek military schools. The head of the organization is not a Cypriot citizen but a retired general from Greece (CNG, 2020a, 2020b), who was trained by and served in the HAF. Since the 1990s, more and more Cypriot officers have attained positions formerly held by their Greek counterparts. Nonetheless, some Greek officers still serve in the CNG while nominally remaining members of thebHAF. Professional Greek-Cypriot officers in the CNG receive their military training in Greek military schools alongside fellow Greek officers

[1] "60 Χρόνια ΕΦ - Γενικό Επιτελείο Εθνικής Φρουράς - Gov.cy". www.gov.cy (in Greek). Retrieved 2024-12-09.

[2] "Cyprus - Finabel". finabel.org. 2020-05-20. Retrieved 2024-12-10.

[3] Polignosi. "Εθνική Φρουρά". www.polignosi.com. Retrieved 2024-12-10.

[4] Χρυσοστόμου, Άγγελος Μ (2013). "Από τον Κυπριακό Στρατό μέχρι και τη δημιουργία της Εθνικής Φρουράς (1959-1964) : η διοικητική δομή, στελέχωση, συγκρότηση και οργάνωση του Κυπριακού Στρατού και η δημιουργία ένοπλων ομάδων-οργανώσεων στις δύο κοινότητες". Gnosis.

[5] Moisi, Evangelina; Zachariades, Alexandros (4 May 2021). "Performing Identity: The Case of the (Greek) Cypriot National Guard". Wiley. 21 (1). The most profound link between Greece and the CNG can be found at the pinnacle of the CNG's organizational structure. The CNG maintains strong links with the Hellenic Armed Forces (HAF) by having active or former Greek officers in important positions in its hierarchy, alongside its own Greek-Cypriot officers who undergo years of training in Greek military schools. The head of the organization is not a Cypriot citizen but a retired general from Greece (CNG, 2020a, 2020b), who was trained by and served in the HAF. Since the 1990s, more and more Cypriot officers have attained positions formerly held by their Greek counterparts. Nonetheless, some Greek officers still serve in the CNG while nominally remaining members of thebHAF. Professional Greek-Cypriot officers in the CNG receive their military training in Greek military schools alongside fellow Greek officers

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