Talk:Continual prayer
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I was the author of the article on 24/7 Prayer and also a staff member at the International House of Prayer - I posted the article both on Wikipedia and on our own website. The posting on Wikipedia was to increase the knowledge and awareness of this practice - IF anybody owns the copyright to this piece it is me and I would like to see it reinstated!!
Copyvio
[edit]User:70.64.120.184 has noted this on the main page:
This article may have been the original article and was copied to the ihop.org site rather than the other way around. Ihop claims their article was compiled and posted November 7, 2005 and this wiki article was moved over from "24-7 Prayer" only days later (see history). The 24-7 Prayer article was in existance for a long time before November 7th as I remember editing it. Deleting this article should be reconsidered.
The first appearance in Wikipedia of the text I’m accusing of being a copyright violation is on November 11, 2005. That’s as far back as the edit history for this article goes. Before that, this article was known as 24/7 Prayer, which has no edit history aside from stuff related to the move to Continual prayer. There was a related article at 24-7 Prayer Movement, created July 13, 2005. It was eventually merged into Continual prayer, and it never contained any of the supposed copyvio text.
I don’t think Wikipedia was the source of the Ihop.org text. First, IHOP claims a date (November 7, 2005) earlier than the Wikipedia text appeared. Second, the text is not Wikipedia style at all. For instance, headings were numbered and lettered. The section numbering and the phrase “as an outflow of his heart” were removed from the Wikipedia version mere minutes after the article was created, but they are both present in the IHOP page. I find it unlikely that the text of the IHOP page was copied during that short window.
Since it has come to my attention that 24-7 Prayer Movement used to exist as its own article, my suggested alternative to deletion is to revert Continual prayer to the last pre-redirect version of 24-7 Prayer Movement (but keep the “Continual prayer” article title).
--Rob Kennedy 20:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- I deleted the copyvio text here and moved the old 24-7 Prayer Movement article in its place. --Aguerriero (talk) 20:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Context
[edit]Laus perennis wordlessly redirects here. Luxeuil was an early site of laus perennis. --Wetman 07:46, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
References and Information to help build the article
[edit]- thought these might help the article creator.Travisharger 00:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN): "The 24/7 prayer movement" On-line text
- Jesus Army Magazine: "Pete Grieg" On-line text
- Penninsula mosaic: "Brief History of 24/7 prayer" On-line text
- Christianity Today Library:"Around the Clock Prayer" On-linetext
- Red Moon Rising by Pete Greig...details the old and modern 24/7 prayer movement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travisharger (talk • contribs) 00:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Should include
[edit]article should also mention the Moravian church's 100 year 24/7 prayer movement with Nicolaus Ludwig Zinzendorf, as well as the modern 24/7 prayer movement with Pete Grieg, and the houses of prayer...mainly The International House of Prayer IHOP-KC as well as other IHOP'sTravisharger 00:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)