Talk:Colors of the day in Thailand

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Can someone help me expand this article? I think it is a good topic for wikipedia.

I don't know the first thing about this topic, but the chart's colors do not match the info in the links. 69.244.44.135 (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice to put colors back to the the table (removed on 11:24, 3 October 2016), just as they are on Thai page "สีประจำวันในประเทศไทย" and "Thai_solar_calendar#Weeks".

Page Move

This page should be moved to Thailand Color of the day. Other Suggestion/Comments welcome. --Anbu121 (talk me) 16:05, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be either Colors of the day in Thailand or Thai colors of the day. --101.108.235.38 (talk) 21:03, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

source

http://horoscope.mthai.com/horoscope-highlight/9017.html --โจ : แฟน ท่าเรือ : เกรียนที่หน้าตาไม่ดีแห่งไร้สาระนุกรม : พูดคุยกับควายตัวนี้ได้ที่นี่ 08:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.myhora.com/%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%8C/%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%B9%E0%B8%81%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%89%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%94-010.aspx--โจ : แฟน ท่าเรือ : เกรียนที่หน้าตาไม่ดีแห่งไร้สาระนุกรม : พูดคุยกับควายตัวนี้ได้ที่นี่ 08:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory and Source Problems

First, what is actually written on the two source pages are in contradiction with what is in this article. Second, those are blogs. Third, the sources cited by the blogs are not correct (the information is not there). Fourth, while this is about "lucky" colors (and have meaning based on one's birth weekday) this doesn't have anything to do with astrology strictly speaking. Fifth, while indeed there are colors for days (and people in certain professions do wear certain colors for certain days on occasion), no one is clear where this came from. Finally, the color differences in Ayurveda, and what we see in Thailand (and also neighboring countries Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar. --Jeffmcneill (talk) 02:45, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to track down the color for weekdays to the Thai lunisolar calendar. It is possible this is where it came from, though everyone I've spoken with has no idea about the source of these colors. It may be the Phibun/nationalist movement that this came from, but other countries have similarity (Cambodia) and largely share the same calindrical system. --Jeffmcneill (talk) 02:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article clearly needs a major overhaul. It should discuss the broader aspects of how day colours were derived from Vedic astrology, and explore how these evolved into the specific themes widely followed in Thailand today. Its scope should also be expanded to cover other relevant countries; the article should be renamed accordingly.

As an anecdote, Sunthorn Phu's Sawadiraksa includes the following verse:

อนึ่งภูษาผ้าทรงณางค์รบ ให้มีครบเครื่องเสร็จทั้งเจ็ดสี

วันอาทิตย์สิทธิโชคโฉลกดี เอาเครื่องสีแดงทรงเป็นมงคล

เครื่องจันทร์นั้นควรสีนวลขาว จะยืนยาวชันษาสถาผล

อังคารม่วงช่วงงามสีครามปน เป็นมงคลขัตติยาเข้าราวี

เครื่องวันพุธสุดดีด้วยสีแสด กับเหลืองแปดปนประดับสลับสี

วันพฤหัสจัดเครื่องเขียวเหลืองดี วันศุกร์สีเมฆหมอกออกสงคราม

วันเสาร์ทรงดำจึงล้ำเลิศ แสนประเสริฐเสี้ยนศึกจะนึกขาม

หนึ่งพาชีขี่ขับประดับงาม ให้ต้องตามสีสันจึงกันภัย ฯ

To summarise, it suggests dressing in red for Sunday, white for Monday, purple/indigo for Tuesday, orange/yellow for Wednesday, green/yellow for Thursday, "cloud" (light indigo) for Friday, and black for Saturday. So there's another discrepancy to explain. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that much more is needed here. Likely this is getting into original research, since no great source seems readily available. There does seem to be a strong connection between names of days of the week, which are named after planets, and the associated colors of those planet deities. Also, the names of days correlate to some degree in Khmer and Lao. Apparently use of names of planets for days has gone out of fashion quite early in Myanmar. In any case, the Calendrical system has all the planets in there for the days, as well as Rahu for Wednesday afternoon. Also there are animals and numbers assigned to various planets, dates, etc. However, and this is the point, there are no colors. This means the calendrical system does not directly entail colors for specific days (though in some aspects there are two different ruling planets for Wednesday (morning and evening). Color assignment is outside the scope of the calendrical system and its permutations, which is a very good reason for their being many different schemes of which colors are assigned to which days. --Jeffmcneill (talk) 14:13, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Color Blue

I have been living in Thailand for 5 years. The accepted color for Friday, as already explained in the text of the article, is light blue. Thai, like Russian and probably many other languages, draws a distinction between สีฟ้า/Голубой цвет/Sky Blue and สีน้ำเงิน/Синий цвет/Dark Blue. The color for Friday is literally สีฟ้า, the color of a light blue sky. I have asked Thai people (in Thai) about whether a particular blue I'm wearing or seeing is สีฟ้า or สีน้ำเงิน over the years, and I always hear สีน้ำเงิน unless I show a particularly light shade of blue, to which I get สีฟ้า instead. This distinction is similar to the one English draws between dark red ("Red") and light red ("Pink"). The image should ideally be changed to reflect a light blue in position #5 for Friday, rather than the dark blue it's currently showing. DanaValerie (talk) 10:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just removed the image. Apart from being inaccurate and using unsightly garish colours, simple colour swatches can be displayed easily enough without using images. There must be a better image to illustrate the concept... --Paul_012 (talk) 14:06, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An original photo of a calendar like the one in this Art & Culture article[1] would work nicely. They're not common, though. Not sure if I've ever come across one myself. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DanaValerie and Paul 012:

see c:Commons:GL/I#Weekday_Color --Mrmw (talk) 21:37, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. I won't oppose re-adding it to the article (until a better image is found), but something weird is going on—the thumbnail continues to show the old version when I'm logged in, and no amount of purging or reloading seems to update it. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:45, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]