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Casualties

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A new WSJ report, citing western estimates, says that Russian casualties are ~200,000 killed, 400,000 wounded and "at least" 80,000 Ukrainians killed and 400,000+ wounded.[1] this should be added to the casualties infobox. Maxsmart50 (talk) 14:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added the estimate of Ukrainian casualties which the WSJ actually cites to a confidential Ukrainian estimate earlier in the year. As for the western estimates mentioned, they were most likely referring to the very recent UK estimate which put Russian casualties at 610,000 and which is already included in the table. We can add it additionally if other editors want to, but I think it would be redundant since we already include the UK estimate, as well as the Economist one which runs up to 728,000. EkoGraf (talk) 17:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Kulyk

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Can someone please add him? Ukrainian former national cycling coach Alexander Kulyk [uk] died on 1 March 2022 in a mission evacuating people from Kyiv.[2][3]

References

Russian MOD source

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Why is the Russian MOD used as a source in this article? We know for a fact that they aren't a trustworthy source. We know they greatly exaggerate, lie, and downplay just about everything to be in their favor. Its not even worth including here, you might as well include Alex Jones' opinion. Why would you intentionally include a source that we know for fact lies and is illegitiamte? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.59.115 (talk) 07:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What particular fragment? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 07:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of these sources are trustworthy. This entire war is NATO vs Russia (even admitted by EU articles how Ukraine would only survive 15 days without EU support). Both have a rhetoric concerning casualties. Therefore both can not be trusted.
But at least add de Russian MOD for Russian losses 94.72.66.194 (talk) 13:39, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Millions” of death

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At last night’s US presidential debate, Donald Trump asserted that the casualty figures we are all seeing are “fake numbers” and that the casualties are actually in the “millions”. Were it anyone else, we could simply ignore the statement, but given that he was and may well be again the US President, the commander in chief of the most powerful military machine ever, and with access to what is presumably some of the best military intelligence in the world, surely the article needs to either mention his estimate, or explain why it is not being used? 76.89.162.73 (talk) 00:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If someone dies of pneumonia in 2020, it’s recorded as a COVID death. If someone dies of pneumonia in Ukraine’s freezing temperatures in a bombed out hospital with no electrical power, it’s not recorded as a war death. The mainstream media cares much more about spin than the truth. 65.36.78.1 (talk) 04:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 October 2024

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94.147.164.179 (talk) 21:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 23:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]