Talk:Case variants of IPA letters
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[edit]The row with ᶑ --> is very suspicious. First, it contains a PUA character ; second, there is no known language where ᶑ appears, so why would anybody create a case pair? Third, unicode does not has any character with name similar to uppercase LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH HOOK AND TAIL.--76.218.120.86 (talk) 03:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)iz
- The whole thing is a splendid example of OR. -- Evertype·✆ 10:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
SIL fonts have the pair (ᶑ and its capital) in their private-use area. — kwami (talk) 12:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Original post says: U+1D91 ᶑ LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH HOOK AND TAIL INTO =U+F20D <private-use-F20D> (PUA)).
- Kwami says: involved are cp's U+F20C <private-use-F20C> and U+F20D <private-use-F20D> , by SIL.
- Today, e.g. U+F20D is deprecated by SIL (because into U+1D91 - see above).
- So, Private Use (Unicode) code points are noted.
- Concluding: SIL used PUA. PU by SIL, well documented, is not OR. Even better: SIL did excellent -may I say splendid- job in promoting from PUA (SIL's choice) into Unicode U+1D91. -DePiep (talk) 23:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Reasons for uc/lc symbols
[edit]A great list this is. May I suggest: can we add a column to describe the background (or reason) for the uc/lc aspect? Could be: old typographic (e.g. type not available in say Greek font, not even turned), symbol has stylistic requests, Unicode defines it uc (/lc), time of origin (especially: before/after electronic). Again: a great list for those who want to dive into this detail. -DePiep (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Sure, if you have access to that info. This started with what I found in West African newspapers, and I have no idea about the history. — kwami (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, I thought you had ;-) Mind if I add their Unicode numbers & -notes? Could be disturbing though. -DePiep (talk) 22:14, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Shouldn't disturb anything as a separate column. — kwami (talk) 22:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Of course, separete column(s). But the "Remark" or "Background" column is more relevant. -DePiep (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Just to get a grip: so the IPA symbols are all defined to be "lowercase"? (except Ɂ clearly). By IPA and by Unicode? -DePiep (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2012 (UTC).
- I don't think so. IPA is not defined for case. But the letters are styled as l.c. (or small caps), and when adopted into an alphabet are treated as l.c., so that u.c. forms need to be created. For obvious reasons, the small-cap letters have never AFAIK been adopted. — kwami (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- You say: "styled as l.c. (or small caps)". That is more fun than I can have now. ;-) -DePiep (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think so. IPA is not defined for case. But the letters are styled as l.c. (or small caps), and when adopted into an alphabet are treated as l.c., so that u.c. forms need to be created. For obvious reasons, the small-cap letters have never AFAIK been adopted. — kwami (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Just to get a grip: so the IPA symbols are all defined to be "lowercase"? (except Ɂ clearly). By IPA and by Unicode? -DePiep (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2012 (UTC).
- Of course, separete column(s). But the "Remark" or "Background" column is more relevant. -DePiep (talk) 23:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Shouldn't disturb anything as a separate column. — kwami (talk) 22:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, I thought you had ;-) Mind if I add their Unicode numbers & -notes? Could be disturbing though. -DePiep (talk) 22:14, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- This ought to be said explicitly in the lead; I almost rewrote it ... —Tamfang (talk) 23:21, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I need ɕ & ɟ in uppercase
[edit]Hi, I need these letter's in uppercase, do you know if they exist and what is their Unicode‑range ? Thanks you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.109.12.207 (talk) 22:19, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- There are no uppercase variants of those symbols in Unicode. Nardog (talk) 12:14, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
ɟ is Ɉ or Ⅎ in uppercase. There is no uppercase ɕ, but you can use 6 as a placeholder for uppercase ɕ. 83.142.57.33 (talk) 16:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
That quote
[edit]What is the meaning of "MBƱ AJƐYA KIGBƐNDƱƱ ŊGBƐYƐ KEDIƔZAƔ SƆSƆƆ TƆM SE"? Where did it originally appear?
הראש (talk) 20:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC)