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Copyvio

The possible copyright infringement is from (quotation):

"from an article by Mr. James Garretson, former chairman of the CHS Social Studies Department which appeared in HiLite April 25, 1999"

Schooling

Carmel High School is the most common high school. Mascot- Greyhounds

Middle schools (6-8) that feed into CHS are: Carmel, Clay, and Creekside.

Elementary schools are: Carmel, Cherry Tree, College Wood, Forest Dale, Mohawk Trails, Orchard Park, Prarie Trace, Smoky Row, Towne Meadow, West Clay, and Woodbrook.

Roundabouts

Roundabouts surround lots of Carmel. Over the past few years, many roundabouts have been replacing four-ways stops.

Yeah, Ever since the construction of Hazel Dell Parkway on the East Side (of Carmel), roundabouts have been implemented throughout the city, err, community. For instance, Spring Mill Road (West Side) has only 1 stop sign and 6 (I think) roundabouts through it's entire route in Carmel. I actually believe the number now to be over 23. Still, they're very controversial, as I found out after writing my Senior Thesis on Roundabouts. --The_Source 16:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Average home price

Can some one please cite the reference that puts the average value of a house at $750,000 before stating it as fact? That seems far too high considering the per capita is $35k. K_Watson1984

Will be contacting several real estate agents and city offices on 04/03/07 to obtain the offical 2005 average house price. Until then please do not include the disputed value. K_Watson1984

Please make sure you are finding the average home price... I keep finding the median home price on the web, but not the average one. And the per capita does not affect the average home price in Carmel; if you take a look in real estate ads from the past few years, there's more than a handful that are pretty pricey. An example would be the former Conseco CEO's mansion, which is being sold at around a price of 20 million... Heyhey Hey 15:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Umm...Jermaine O'neal does NOT play for the pacers anymore... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.123.212.63 (talk) 22:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fifth-largest city in Indiana

Carmel is the fifth-largest city in Indiana (see List of cities in Indiana) and the second largest municipality in the Indianapolis metropolitan area.--Kevjgav (talk) 19:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Infobox map

Since Carmel annexed Home Place in 2018, the map in the infobox needs to be updated. Indyguy (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional content

User:76.248.240.121 has engaged in a content dispute with myself and User:Fettlemap about the removal of promotional content:

Carmel has an educated and affluent population whose households have average median income levels of $109,201, and the median average price of a home is $320,400, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.^[1] It is cited as one of the Best Places to Live in America by Money magazine (No. 1 in 2012, No. 3 in 2018)^[2] and other surveys such as Wallet Hub, Niche, and SafeWise. The city has also been honored for being one of the safest in America, and best place to launch a career and to raise a family.^[3]
The city of Carmel has been recognized with numerous awards and ratings for its programs and services.

Listed as #1 best place in US to launch a career by Money Magazine in 2018^[4]

Listed as #1 best place to live by Niche in 2017 and 2018^[5]^[6]

Listed as #16 best place to live by Money Magazine in 2017^[7]

Listed as #3 best place to live by Money Magazine in 2014^[8]

Listed as #1 best place to live by CNN Money Magazine 2012^[9]

Arborculture’s highest award – the Gold Leaf Award in 2002^[10]

The 2006 City Livability Award to mayor Jim Brainard for roundabouts. The award recognizes mayors for implementing programs to improve the quality of life in their cities.^[11]

References

^ Cite error: The named reference :0 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

^ "Carmel, Indiana Is No. 3 on MONEY's Best Places to Live list". Money. Retrieved 2019-01-28.

^ "City Wide Awards". City of Carmel. Retrieved 2019-01-28.

^ "These Are the Best Places in the U.S. to Launch a Career". Time. 12 March 2018.

^ "2017 Best Places to Live in America". Niche. Retrieved 2017-05-03.

^ "2018 Best Places to Live in America". Niche.

^ "Carmel, Indiana is MONEY's No. 16 Best Place to Live in America". Money.

^ "Carmel, Ind. is No. 3! See if your town made the list of MONEY's Best Places to Live". Time. 19 September 2014.

^ "Best Places to Live 2012". CNN.^{[dead link‍]}

^ "City of Carmel Urban Forestry Awards and Grants". Retrieved 20 August 2014.

^ "City of Carmel Receives 2006 City Livability Award for Roundabouts". Archived from the original on 2006-09-23.

The text does not improve the article because it is biased and promotion, per WP:PROMO and WP:NPOV, and is not endorsed at WP:USCITIES. The input of others is welcome. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the first paragraph there is fine. I don't like it, but it's a common enough structure in US city articles. May need slight wordsmithing and ensure it's all referenced. The list of awards however should go, I don't believe its encyclopaedic. Canterbury Tail talk 19:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The content which Magnolia677 seeks to remove is a statement of demographic data and a general description of Carmel. Magnolia677 disregards the instructions they themselves cite at WP:NPOVHOW. This editing is disruptive and consistent with a pattern of other edits that Magnolia677 has made for which they have received numerous warnings. User:Fettlemap is not involved in this dispute as their revert was based on procedure rather than content.

The WP:USCITIES guidelines furthermore state clearly that "Notable unusual characteristics and characteristics commonly associated with it" are to be included in the lead section of city articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.240.121 (talk) 18:35, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will concede that the content Magnolia seeks to remove includes demographic data, but not all of the content is that. Per the "Notable unusual characteristics" clause, The article should mention some of the awards, but I don't think a listing of all or even most of the awards is notable. I think Canterbury's proposal s the best way to go.

Something I am wondering is how exactly did Magnolia violate WP:NPOVHOW?

One more thing. Magnolila's edits to this page were made in good faith and were not disruptive. I know she has been warned on her talk page multiple times for disruptive editing, but that would only matter at a place like WP:ANI, where conduct disputes are settled. Magnolia started this talk age section after reverting you 1 time, which is the right thing to do, since it builds consensus instead of edit warring. You, on the other hand, almost violated WP:3RR. I would suggest you think twice before starting a conduct dispute with Magnolia. Caleb M1 (talk) 15:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Notable people

Mark Herrmann 1980 Heisman Trophy finalist, pro football player 2601:803:C502:D330:B034:DAAA:93B7:7622 (talk) 11:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Indyguy (talk) 15:06, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Indyguy: You beat me to it. I found not the best source, but it's all I could find. I'll add it. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:08, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[:0-1] Cite error: The named reference :0 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[2] "Carmel, Indiana Is No. 3 on MONEY's Best Places to Live list". Money. Retrieved 2019-01-28.

[3] "City Wide Awards". City of Carmel. Retrieved 2019-01-28.

[4] "These Are the Best Places in the U.S. to Launch a Career". Time. 12 March 2018.

[5] "2017 Best Places to Live in America". Niche. Retrieved 2017-05-03.

[6] "2018 Best Places to Live in America". Niche.

[7] "Carmel, Indiana is MONEY's No. 16 Best Place to Live in America". Money.

[8] "Carmel, Ind. is No. 3! See if your town made the list of MONEY's Best Places to Live". Time. 19 September 2014.

[Best_Places_to_Live_2012-9] "Best Places to Live 2012". CNN.^{[dead link‍]}

[10] "City of Carmel Urban Forestry Awards and Grants". Retrieved 20 August 2014.

[11] "City of Carmel Receives 2006 City Livability Award for Roundabouts". Archived from the original on 2006-09-23.

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