Talk:Cambridgeshire (historic)

Semi-protection

Can User:FlightTime please explain his/her objections to recent improvements to this article before reverting? Chrisieboy (talk) 21:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chrisieboy: Sure, my edit summary should explain my concerns, All this without a discussion first ? - FlightTime (open channel) 22:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What sourced content has been removed and what unsourced claims have been added? Chrisieboy (talk) 22:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chrisieboy: What errors? --Inops (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. The 2015 flag relates to the present-day county.

2. The present county is a non-metropolitan county, not an administrative county

3. Use of the present tense for an entity abolished in 1965.

4. The arms relate to Cambridgeshire County Council, 1889 to 1965. The Isle of Ely has its own article.

Chrisieboy (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. As mentioned, the Flag Institute registers flags for historic counties, e.g. Westmorland, Cumberland, Yorkshire, Huntingdonshire

2. Fair enough (it was meant more as a descriptive thing, than use of the pre-1974 governmental jargon).

3. The historic county stopped being used for administration in 1890, not 1965. As linked before, historic counties of England within their own articles are all referred to in present tense. See Yorkshire, Cumberland, Huntingdonshire, etc... --Inops (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. The Flag Institute is irrelevant.

3. Can you please provide a reference for this assertion?

Chrisieboy (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Flag Institute maintains the UK Flag Registry. It was designed for the historic county by a member of the Association of British Counties (a pro-historic counties pressure group). We take it as some level of official sanction for county flags. To a reference, yeah, the articles linked above. --Inops (talk) 16:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) They are not references, the Flag Institute does not have official sanction and the ABC is a fringe group. Chrisieboy (talk) 16:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There would be no county flags, if you're going by that standard. I agree with "fringe group" for the ABC, but that's who set up the competition and designed the flag. If by "reference for this assertion" you were talking about "used for administration in 1890 [should be 1889], not 1965", the historic county (I gather the intended coverage of this article) includes the Isle of Ely, which was not included in the 1889-1965 administrative county. --Inops (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In all honesty, it seems bizarre that this article exists, given the historic boundaries could be very cleanly described in the main Cambridgeshire article. --Inops (talk) 16:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Merge? Chrisieboy (talk) 16:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to propose it... --Inops (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]