Talk:CFRO-FM

Don't know how to change the name of the article

Please re-name this whole article as the correct name of this station, which is

Vancouver Co-operative Radio.

Note that it includes no capitalised letter "O". Also, it should re-direct from

a. CFRO. b. CFRO-FM. c. Co-op Radio. d. Co-Op Radio. e. Vancouver Co-op Radio. f. Vancouver Co-Op Radio. g. 102.7 FM. h. 102.7FM. i. 102.7 fm. j. 102.7fm. --Korky Day (talk) 13:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Radio station articles on Wikipedia are titled with the call sign of the station, not with their brand name. And we don't redirect from a frequency number to a single radio station, as there are hundreds, if not thousands, of radio stations in the world which broadcast on 102.7 FM. What we can do, however, is create a list at the title "102.7 FM" of those stations (I've started one at 102.7 FM, although it's not complete), and we can redirect the other way, from the on-air name to the call sign, as long as the on-air name is unique (which it certainly is in this case). Bearcat (talk) 15:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Bearcat, you're a great help. I don't know how to re-direct. Can you do it from my examples a. through f.? --Korky Day (talk) 04:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

And from Vancouver Co-operative Radio? Korky Day (talk) 04:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

There appear to be other stations in the world that use the name "Co-op Radio" as well, so that one will also need to be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect to this article. But I've created all of the redirects that can legitimately point to this one alone (ie. the call signs and the titles that do have the name Vancouver in them.) Bearcat (talk) 00:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Great! It works! Thanks. How about also adding a re-direct from Vancouver Cooperative Radio, since some might think it has no hyphen? Korky Day (talk) 19:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

A "Co-op Radio" disambiguation page already exists. Korky Day (talk) 19:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh, yeah, it exists because I created it about five minutes after posting the comment you're replying to (*grin*) Bearcat (talk) 21:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

By the way, Vancouver Co-operative Radio is not merely our "brand name", as implied in the first comment from Bearcat above. It is our only official name. CFRO is not our name, they are our call letters. Korky Day (talk) 22:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

This is not how this works, only the call sign should be above the logo, not the name of the stations, not vice versa or else every single station would be changes (ie CFBT > The Beat 94.4, CHQM > 103.5 QM/FM) --Emarsee ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 23:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

No matter what the name of the company or organization that operates it is, a call sign is legally the principal identifier of a radio station's transmitter. That's what Wikipedia goes by in article titles and in the "name" field of an infobox, per our longstanding policy on this. The reasoning behind this is that the call sign is the only identifier which is always unique to a single radio or television station. The fact that your particular name is unique to your station can't override this, because many other radio stations' names aren't unique (Q92, etc.), and we can't be inconsistent in how our radio station articles are treated. As well, the infobox already has two other fields where "Vancouver Co-operative Radio" can be inserted, and no other field where "CFRO-FM" can be. Bearcat (talk) 22:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't mind call letters as identifiers, but radio and television stations choose other names for a good reason. Wikipedia should not be in the business of telling them they can't, so I think the WP policy must change. Let the ordinary name and the call letters get equal prominance. It does not have to be win-lose, it can be win-win, can't it? Korky Day (talk) 01:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Just to be clear, Wikipedia policy doesn't dictate what a radio station can or can't call itself — it only applies to how we format our articles about the stations. At the same time, Emarsee is overreacting a bit — the policy as it stands only applies to the title, the "name" field of the infobox (which I've proposed for renaming at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations due to confusion about this) and how the first sentence should be written. It only means that we can't completely remove the call sign from the article — it doesn't mean that we have to refer to the station only by its call sign throughout the entire article.

At the same time, while I have no fundamental objection to your recent edits, I wouldn't be doing my job as an administrator if I didn't ask you to read WP:COI. Not that you've overstepped it or anything like that, but just so that you're aware of it. There's no proscription against making purely factual contributions if you're personally involved with the topic, but just to be safe I'd ask you to read it so you know what kind of edits are okay for you to make and what kind could be seen as problematic. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Maximus Clean

from http://www.edleemusic.com/ourdjs/ourdjs_maximus.html:

Maximus Clean is known in Vancouver as being a pioneer in bringing Hip-Hop culture to the masses in a professional and ethical way. He began his career in community radio and has since been involved in production and programming for CFRO 102.7 in Vancouver. He has also been a radio personality on CJIV 93.9FM in Burnaby and KCMU 90.3FM in Seattle. Maximus' notoriety has lead him and his protégés "The Angels" to be asked to host many major concerts including Jay Z, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Redman & Method Man, 112, Jesse Powell, Biz Markie, Allure, DMX, Lost Boyz, Grandmaster Flash, MC Lyte, Horace Brown, Run DMC and Case to name a few. It is rare to find an individual as gifted on the turntables as he is on the microphone and Maximus is just such a talent.

I remember listening to this DJ on CFRO for years back in the mid-90s all night on Monday nights, followed by the Crispy Biscuit mix show on Tuesdays playing more underground type hiphop. Back then this was pretty much the only station playing hardcore hiphop and rap in Metro Vancouver and this DJ got fairly popular because of it. Don't know what happened to him now though. Anyways, probably not notable enough to warrant his own article but maybe there could be mention of him or his show somewhere in this article. OlEnglish (talk) 01:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)