Talk:Breakin' Dishes/GA1

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Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 23:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this in several steps. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
	1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Good
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Good
	2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Good
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Good
	2c. it contains no original research.	Good
	3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	~~See below~~ Good
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Good
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Good
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Good
	6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Good
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Good
	7+. .	Pending

Comments

1A
Lead

Should probably indicate that the song was released on GGGB:R
Why? It was on the original track listing of GGGB first and charted before GGGB:Reloaded was even released. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:32, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The song charted again in 2009; was that related to GGGB:R?

It peaked at number 4, four months before the release of GGGB:Reloaded. Not even Take a Bow, If I Never See Your Face Again or Disturbia had been released, and I don't think there was any sign of there being a re-release in February 08. As I said, Breakin' Dishes is on the original tracklist (2007) as well as the reloaded edition (June 08), but charted way before the reloaded edition was released. Only Take a Bow, If I Never See Your Face Again or Disturbia are listed as being released from GGGB:Reloaded. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes.

Music and lyrics

"... the former of whom produced the song". -- I kinda prefer the wording in the lead, "with the former producing the song". "... with Stewart also producing the song" would work too, methinks.
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Musically, "Breakin' Dishes" is a piano and guitar driven song which incorporates elements of R&B and Dance-pop music genres." -- Perhaps something like "Musically, "Breakin' Dishes" is piano and guitar driven, incorporating elements of R&B and Dance-pop." for conciseness
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

" Nick Levine of Digital Spy called... " -- you already explained who Levine is, so perhaps just writing "Levine called..." would be better.
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"However, upon the release of Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded (2008)..." -- This is more or less in line with his thoughts on the original album, so "however" is probably not necessary
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances

"After performing the song with backing dancers, who wore outfits which matched Rihanna's..." -- I'd probably go "After performing the song with backing dancers, who wore outfits that matched Rihanna's..."
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The song was also featured on the set of all three of Rihanna's arena tours, including..." -- If it is including some, then naturally some are excluded. Just go with the colon like you did in the lead.
Done Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3A

A couple things that could be useful, if sources can be found.

Have any notable singers or bands done covers?

Has the song won any awards?

Were there any negative reviews of the song?

The hasn't never been covered by anyone of any notability, and it was only a promo single so it was not nominated for any awards. I could probably expand the Critical recpeption a bit more tomorrow. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon!

And I have added one review, that's all i could find as part of album reviews, luckily it's a negative one. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 17:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This and that

Using a song clip to illustrate its musical nature (bpm, piano and guitar, etc.) would probably be allowed under the FUC. Especially if we choose the bit with the lyrics quoted. The clip would have to be under 20 seconds.

Okay, I'll get someone to upload a sample. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MusicNotes.com needs a URL
A consensus was reached that the URL should not be included at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. I found the discussion. Thanks for pointing that out.

As noted by yourself, the article is quite short. However, as the song itself never became as big as "Umbrella" or (to take a song from another singer) "American Pie", this is fine.

Looks good, just needs a few touch ups. I have class soon, so it will take several hours before I can reply to any comments. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prose and completeness look good. Paraphrasing checks (1, 2, 3) look fine. I'm happy to pass this nomination. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:26, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]