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Plot?

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Why is there no plot section, or even the vaguest mention of anything that happened in the movie? I assume that something happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.125.218 (talk) 00:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I've significantly trimmed the plot summary and removed the tag regarding its length. It probably isn't a masterpiece, given I spliced a lot of previously unrelated paragraphs together before starting to cut, but it should do until somebody feels up to improving it. Two quick notes:

  1. I'm aware that the "everything is backwards" theory seems to pop out of nowhere and crack the case as soon as it's mentioned. That's actually how fast it happens in the movie itself, apart from a brief obstacle where they have to "enter the keystrokes backwards" to play the video.
  2. I'm not sure I did the best job when I talked about the security at Jeff's house. I know the bridge was pre-existing and not really a security measure, but I lumped it in there anyway to mention the bridge without adding another sentence. I left the mention of the dog alarm because nobody hears it when Erica is missing, and because I'm guessing there's supposed to be significance in the pack of dogs sounding just like his alarm.

If anyone has a more elegant way of handling that, please do. -Dapper cthulhu (talk) 05:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing Detail

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I have noted in the "Plot" section of the main page that an edit by user:2601:49:C301:4AFA:91C:64DC:6ACD:5DDE left out information. Specifically, in the eighth paragraph the text said

Jeff becomes agitated and shouts to the group that nobody can leave because he will not blamed for the murders of the tourists. decides to call for help, but while looking for a telephone 
directory discovers dossiers on each of the tourists in Jeff's desk

The name at the beginning of the second paragraph is missing. I have never seen the film, so I don't know what belongs there. I've modified the page to say

...he will not blamed for the murders of the tourists. Who?--editor left this name out decides to call for help, but while looking for a 
telephone directory discovers dossiers on each of the tourists in Jeff's desk

This may not be the correct way to do this, but I'm not sure how else to address this. I've never encountered quite this situation before.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 21:21, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Content dispute

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There appears to be a major content dispute on this page mainly associated with perceived addition of original research and fan forums. To prevent this dispute from proceeding any further, I have opened this section for discussion regarding recent activity on this page and will try to address both sides of this conflict:

1. IP user 109.195.85.9, you have been constantly adding information to this page backed by either sources that do not adequately explain or even explicitly mention the topic in question, notably an image that lacks proper explanation to conclude that it is in fact from a deleted scene. Usage of Horror Fans Anonymous and Cinemenium is also questionable as, although they do cite sources in some instances, they are self-proclaimed fan forums that can fall under user-generated content, and, in context of the additions made, fail to properly name their sources. Usage of more reliable sources such as Variety would be greatly appreciated here.

2. Even more distressing is the fact that neither party, especially Mike, has made attempts to confront this conflict of interest and try to negotiate a compromise, instead resorting to reverting each other's edits, sometimes without explaining why. Conduct on either side has not been helpful in any way, with the IP user making personal attacks and taunting the other and MikeAllen not making even a single effort to either warn them or try to approach them for a fair discussion.

I will also claim responsibility on my own part for not taking heed of this matter at the earliest to alleviate the feud and help draw it to a close. If my edits, which I took great caution and hesitation in exercising, may seem duplicitous, please note that I do not wish to take sides here or, as the IP user has stated in an edit summary, fan a street fight. I will also clarify that I am not a lapdog or henchman for any user, but am acting here as a neutral mediator trying my best to negotiate a compromise that satisfies both parties. There is no easy way out of this if there is no cooperation, so I beseech both of you to try to find a reasonable and amicable outcome for this so that none must deal with such calamity any further. I also welcome third parties to opine on this dispute so that it can be resolved as soon as possible. Thank you. FloorMadeOuttaFloor (go ahead, make my day) 06:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you bother to read start of edit war your friend started (along of his many others), youll see that MikeAllen was one started personal attacks on more than one occasion:
17:18, 8 July 2024 MikeAllen talk contribs 46,435 bytes −781 ( OK, Russian IP )
04:22, 23 July 2024 MikeAllen talk contribs 47,139 bytes 0 ( Since you are sooo proud of your work. 🫣) 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:25, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mike started delete all my additions on page, claiming that they are unreliable sources - including The Guardian.
He has more accusations on his talk page of blindly deleting every user's additions than Harvey Weinstein of rape.
He felt need to stalking my IP and bring my country in edit section as attacks and justification of his vandalistic deletings.
I tried to negotiate a compromise on more than one occasion. I let him edit as he wanted my info, yet he still waited more than once few months and completely erased everything again.
From beggining your friend was very agressive and combative. And judging by his history, he is like that with a lot of other users. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:25, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And you arent helping neither where you ingnoring his behavior due personal friendship (like ignoring beggining of personal attacks from him), neither when you come in edit section blindly repeat his actions to back him up when he finally again (temporally) calmed down, neither here. He didnt need your defending him. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I adressed deleted scene in edit section, why its legit and why its important addition. I disagree about two cites being untrustworthy or forums - their info is important and collaborated by other sources. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I dont see what else to say as i feel everything was already discussed, including my country and IP that your friend felt necessary bring in edit section when he started personal attacks on me. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:29, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest that vandalism of this page with important info being that didnt harm anyone, except obviously Mike, constantly and periodically being deleted should stop ONCE AND FOR ALL, edit war that your friend started at least here should be over and we all go our own way.
I apologize for bad grammar. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 07:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve already stated why I removed the content you added. You keep claiming the sources are fine. One is from Reddit. Ok. I’m not going back and forth with this anymore. Nothing is ever done with IP users, they always just bounce around to another IP when blocked…so it’s pointless to go through the steps to even report you. I said in an edit summary the IP was from Russia. It’s public information that Wikipedia shows. You decided to use your IP to edit in public space. Are you not proud of your country? Sorry for offending you. I’m done with this. Peace out. Mike Allen 13:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are obsessed with user's countries in dicsussion of movies edits.
None of sources are from reddit.
How long are you gonna be done with this time? Good luck. 109.195.85.9 (talk) 19:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]