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Merger discussion

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
To merge BofA Securities and Banc of America Securities (1998–2008), but not Merrill, into Bank of America, primarily for reasons of context, and noting that the article referencing has not improved since the last discussion here in January. Klbrain (talk) 20:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I propose we merge the relevant contents of this article to Bank of America. This entity doesn't even have its own website that shows it as a distinct entity. Its just shows the BOFA website that does business banking. The contents and references of the article don't really provide enough justification for this entity to have its own article. This is very different from Merrill which has far more support that demonstrates its notability as an individual entity. - Imcdc Contact 02:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I noticed you previously merged Barclays Investment Bank with Barclays before. I'm thinking of doing the same for BofA Securities since there really isn't much to support giving it its own article anymore. Do you think it should be merged from your point of view? I already put out a discussion point but no responses yet. So I'm not sure if I missed any procedures in this. Imcdc Contact 04:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Imcdc, thank you for asking. The decision for BofA isn’t so clear cut. The BofA article is large, the company is larger than Barclays and the separate divisions have a longer history (for Barcalys, the investment bank was a recent creation). As well as BofA securities, there are also articles on:
  • Merrill (company)
  • Banc of America Securities (1998–2008)
It does need some further disucss ion and thought. I’m happy to post these comments on the talk page if that would help? Whizz40 (talk) 16:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Whizz40 Yes that would be appreciated. Get the discussion started - Imcdc Contact 04:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's your view on the best approach? Whizz40 (talk) 22:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can start by adding your comments into the discussion.
I will say though, I think Banc of America Securities (1998–2008) also needs to be merged. It only has two references with neither giving any real significant coverage on the firm. Merrill on the other hand has tons of references.
So I guess the next step is seeing if both BOA securities pages can get enough independent good references to support them having independent articles. If not then we should proceed with arguing for them to be merged. Imcdc Contact 11:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, I would tend to agree with your proposal to merge both BofA Securities and Banc of America Securities (1998–2008) into the main article Bank of America unless there are enough sources to support a standalone article. Essentially, it's a question of notability, per Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Whizz40 (talk) 12:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
For Banc of America Securities (1998–2008),   checkY Merger complete.
However, for BofA Securities, this is a larger chunk for the target to swallow, and given that Bank of America is already at 168k, this may be too big a chunk for the target to practically handle. Hence, I suggest some pause for thought, awaiting a slimming down of the BoA page or maintaining the status quo. No objection if others feel differently and want to push on with the remaining merge. Klbrain (talk) 21:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]