Talk:Balkan sworn virgins

Albania Mid‑importance

	Balkan sworn virgins is part of the WikiProject Albania, an attempt to co-ordinate articles relating to Albania on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the welcome page so as to become familiar with the guidelines. If you would like to participate, please join the project and help with our open tasks.AlbaniaWikipedia:WikiProject AlbaniaTemplate:WikiProject AlbaniaAlbania
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Gender studies

This article is part of WikiProject Gender studies. This WikiProject aims to improve the quality of articles dealing with gender studies and to remove systematic gender bias from Wikipedia. If you would like to participate in the project, you can choose to edit this article, or visit the project page for more information.Gender studiesWikipedia:WikiProject Gender studiesTemplate:WikiProject Gender studiesGender studies

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

To-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Assess : see Unassessed Gender studies articles and Unknown-importance Gender studies articles
Cleanup : edit to see
Collaborate : see /Collaboration
Copyedit : edit to see
Deletion sorting : see /Sexuality and gender
Expand : edit to see
Infobox : see Gender studies articles needing infoboxes
Merge : edit to see
Notability : edit to see
NPOV : edit to see
Orphans : Brannon Masculinity Scale · Holy Virility · Media and gender · Michael Kaufman (author) · Women's education in Saudi Arabia
Photo : see Wikipedia requested photographs of gender studies
Split : History of feminism
Stubs : see Gender studies stubs
Translate : see /translation
Update : edit to see
Verify : Riot grrrl
Needs attention : see Gender studies articles needing attention

Women's History Low‑importance

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

LGBTQ+ studies

This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBTQ-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBTQ+ studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesLGBTQ+ studies

This article has been mentioned by a media organization:

Michael Zhang (26 December 2012). "Portraits of Albanian Women Who Have Lived Their Lives As Men". Peta Pixel. Retrieved 7 September 2013.

Untitled

I think this title doesn't conform to usual Wikipedia standards. It shouldn't be pluralized, right? 69.134.78.73 (talk) 22:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has asked

A merge into the Sworn virgin article. It seems like the custom has been spread in Albania and Montenegro and it's dying out. Since I don't see future expansion of this, a merge actually makes sense. Or does it not? Yllke shembullore (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. There are other reasons people become sworn virgins or sworn celibates. I expected Sworn virgin to either be a disambiguation list or discuss the concept in general with a section summarizing and pointing to the Albanian (should that be Balkan, if it's not just in Albania?) sworn virgins article.

Also, please see the next section for another problem. Thanks! — Geekdiva (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since this is specific to Albanian culture it should be referred to as Albanian and not Balkan

I am sorry but is not specific to only Albanian culture. It was also spread on southern parts of Yugoslavia (especially Montenegro). We called them "virdžine" (Serbo-Croatian way of pronouncing the word "virgins"). The proper name of this article should be Balkan sworn virgins. There are many movies and documentaries in ex-Yugoslavia about them. --Skinjara (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the article should be titled Balkan Sworn Virgins due not only to the existence of sworn virgins outside of Albania, but because the tradition has existed throughout periods where Albania was not a nation. This is fairly clearly a supranational tradition so using Balkan which is a supranational term would make more sense. 2001:56A:F71E:C00:B592:E88:416D:C85E (talk) 21:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Balkan languages for sworn virgins that might not be on Wiktionary, & a possible error

This article's introduction lists a lot of terms in a variety of Balkan languages that might not be on Wiktionary yet, if someone wants to double-check over there and add them in.

I also don't know what "Stahl, Turk Moslem" means. Is sadik the Turkish translation? There's no reference written by a Stahl, so is that another Turkish word or just an error?

Sorry all I can do is point this out, but my real-life limitations are getting in the way of doing this myself. Thanks in advance if you can work on this, here and/or Wiktionary! — Geekdiva (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Geekdiva: Paul H. Stahl is a source mentioned in the Antonia Young reference (p. 63) and sadik would seem to be the Turkish (moslem) translation. I changed this article but couldn't find a related Wiktionary page. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 11:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Balkan sworn virgins. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100117232432/http://channel.nationalgeographic.com:80/series/taboo/0330/Overview to http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/taboo/0330/Overview

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:59, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

French page

http://fr.wiki.x.io/wiki/Vierges_sous_serment --Japarthur (talk) 09:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please do better when discussing gender?

This is an article about a distinct gender identity in the Balkans; could we please not deadname the late anthropologist Dr. Jeffrey Dickemann? He had gender-affirming surgery in 1996, the book being cited is from 1997; there's no excuse for using his dead name here. To anyone reading this, please remember to take your time when editing so as to avoid mistakes like this. While seemingly small, these mistakes can mean a lot to trans or gender non-conforming people; especially on articles such as this.LemuroideaFan (talk) 22:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misgendering?

This article repeatedly refers to these people as 'women' and uses female pronouns. I feel this is insensitive to the culture and inaccurate considering these people were effectively men. Moling Luachra (talk) 10:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]