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Neo-Nazi citation

Hi, I noticed that him being a Neo-Nazi is not substantiated in the sourcing (unless I missed it). I don't wanna muck around too much with what's there, but if someone who was involved in editing would like to improve that, I have a couple sources that could be added. [1] [2] (second one is used in the article, but identifies him as a Neo-Nazi for his sharing of Neo-Nazi content) - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This had already been adressed (the page has even been titled at some point Baked Alaska (Neo-Nazi)). If memory helps, the consensus was that, while far-right, Gionet's ideology might not be precise enough to warrant being called neo-nazi. Indeed, none of the sources that were used in the lead section called him a neo-nazi. The Times of Israel article does call him like that, however, but we might just call him "far-right" as this might be the most accurate description for him. I've used the Gizmodo source for the fact that he shared neo-nazi content on social media, though. Psychloppos (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Baked Alaska (livestreamer) be renamed and moved to Baked Alaska (influencer).

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Baked Alaska (livestreamer) → Baked Alaska (influencer) – I suggest we rename the page Baked Alaska (influencer) as it would be a better, broader description of his activities. While his livestreaming activity generated some outrage, he only started doing livestreams in 2019. At that time he had been a known influencer on social media for several years, so livestreaming is not why he was notable in the first place. Psychloppos (talk) 20:24, 11 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 18:48, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn’t familiar with this charming fellow but scanning the article and references, I agree (livestreamer) isn’t the best label given his activities before and since. Many of the references use variations of “(far/alt-right) (social) (media) personality” (e.g., “social media personality” or “far-right media personality” or “alt-right personality” and so on). I have no strong sense of what’s most appropriate but something along these lines would seem appropriate and well-supported by references. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 09:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Social media personality" is accurate since he has relied essentially on the Internet, but it's a bit of a mouthful. "Influencer" means essentially the same thing, so we might as well use that. Psychloppos (talk) 10:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You’re right. I was overthinking it. "Influencer" is more concise than my alternatives and is more accurate than the current disamb. It’s used similarly in a few other titles [3] and redirects. "Media personality" is mainly used with older, pre-social media figures.[4] Support move to Baked Alaska (influencer) barring compelling objection. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 17:12, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]