Talk:Azad Kashmir/Archives/2019

The Name of the country

The name of the country in the article is Pakistan, it should be removed as it is a disputed region. As per the article this part is disputed. Hence, just like the page of Aksai Chin, name of the country should not be mentioned here. Please consider it, as Pakistan only administers this part of Kashmir and the dispute is ongoing.

So, if we name a country for this region without UN's decision it should be depressing for people of India as majority of us consider it as part of India.

Kashish.singh31195 (talk) 19:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

@Kashish.singh31195: Can you please be very specific on what you want to change, update or have an objection to. Currently, your statement here is very vague and not comprehensible. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 20:13, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Name of the country for Pakistan occupied Kashmir

My motive behind this discussion is to change the name of the country for Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir)

It is disputed territory and the dispute is still ongoing in the United Nations Assembly.

Hence, I want you to change the name of the country under quick facts section.

POK or Azaad Kashmir is only administered by Pakistan as per the UN mandate. Otherwise it is not a part of Pakistan even as per their constitution.Kashish.singh31195 (talk) 10:59, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Kashish.singh31195, Remove Pakistan from the Infobox and then write what ? and what is the reliable source supporting such a change ? --DBigXrayᗙ 11:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi DBigXray,

I don't want the name of the country to replaced by any other name. I just want to remove the name of any country from the article till the ongoing dispute is resolved in the United Nations.

As far as the proof is concerned, if you read the article you will find that the region is disputed by two countries and the case is going on in the United Nations. So we cannot say to which country this region belongs till the time case is solved.

I want to draw your attention towards the same cases. Like the article on Aksai Chin, it is also a disputed territory between India and China. In this article wikipedia has not mentioned the name of the country to which it belongs.

So I want you to remove the name of the country column straight away till the verdict.

As far as the p Kashish.singh31195 (talk) 18:38, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Kashish.singh31195 I completely understand your request. but I have to turn it down. Wikipedia mentions what WP:MAINSTREAM media say. and all of them refer to this region as Pakistan. And the corresponding Indian adminstered region as India. Although India claims the region, it is still controlled and adminstered by Pakistan. so the Infobox will remain as it is. --DBigXrayᗙ 19:16, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Kashish.sing31195 is also wrong to claim that there is an "ongoing" dispute in the United Nations. As per Simla agreement, India and Pakistan have agreed to discuss the matter bilaterally, and also to administer the portions under their respective control without prejudice to the stated positions. The issue never went to the Security Council agenda since then. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2018

The phrase "Indian-administered state of Jammu and Kashmir" appears twice in the introduction. The first is necessary, but could the second appearance be reduced? "To the east, Azad Kashmir is separated from Jammu and Kashmir by the Line of Control..." is what I imagined. If this repetition is necessary for WP:NPOV, then please disregard my request. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 15:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done with this edit. thanks for pointing. --DBigXrayᗙ 15:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018

"The literacy rate in Azad Kashmir was 62% in 2004, higher than in any region in Pakistan."

Unless "region in Pakistan" has a technical meaning that excludes Azad Kashmir (like if it means "provinces and federal district but not autonomous territories"), this should say "any other region in Pakistan." 208.95.51.53 (talk) 12:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done under the assumption that "region" has no special meaning. Thanks for pointing this out. --regentspark (comment) 14:39, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2019

14.139.231.9 (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. If that's not what you're requesting, please clarify and make a specific request in the form "Change X to Y". ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:10, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

First Republican Government of Azad Kashmir:

First Republican Government of Azad Kashmir:

This government was established on October 4, 1947, at Pallanderi with the title of Republican Government of Azad Jammu and Kashmir; its head was declared someone 'Khursheed' ; the gazette notification of the constitution of this government was published in the Civil and Military Gazette of Lahore dated October 6, 1947. Mentions of this government have been made three authors in their respective books: Mr Amanullah Khan in his Book Juhd-e-Musalsil; Khwaja Ghulam Ahmad Pandit in his Book Kashmir Azadi Ki Dehyleez Par; Mr Bashir Qureshi in his Book Quaid-e-Kashmir. On October 24, 1947, the Azernment was Kashmir government was reconstituted with young Barrister Sardar Mohammad Ibrahim as its President. The headquarters of the government continued shifting from one place to another: first at Pallanderi, second at Choonjaal Hills, the third at Sardaran Bagh Rawalpindi; 39.32.18.67 (talk) 12:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2019 - Improvements to education heading of main article

Please add following info in education section:

In AJK the Departments of Education (Higher and E&S) Government of Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJ&K) are responsible for primary, secondary, high school and college & universities education in the State of AJK getting their budgetary allocations-development and recurring - from the Government of AJK.The Education system of State consists of two key set ups - Education Department for Schools and Education Department for Colleges. The former is responsible for grades 1 to 12 and the latter shares the responsibility of grades 11 to 14 and postgraduate colleges respectively. Each of these departments is headed by Ministers for Education, while Secretary Education (schools & colleges) are the administrative heads and responsible for taking care of management, academic and policy matters.

https://www.ese.gok.pk/Content/Website/Downloads/ESP.pdf

also give fol address in external links and reference https://www.ese.gok.pk/ Directorate of elementary and secondary education in AJ&K https://www.ese.gok.pk/

Also education in Aj&K may be made another page 118.107.136.179 (talk) 19:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: The content you want added is copied word-for-word from the the source you linked. Please see WP:PLAG. NiciVampireHeart 13:59, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism

The page is protected to prevent vandalism, but it is just sad to see the information provided in the page itself is vandalized! The map depicting POK to be fully integrated part of pakistan is still tolerable as it is the truth and ground reality. Similarly the hatched section (vandalized claim of pakistan) is baseless and is fully under India. Kashmir is as integral a part of India as it is of Pakistan , so ,stopping people to properly speak out the real information won't stop people to have a look at reality! Tathagata101 (talk) 09:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is governed by the policies of WP:Verifiability and WP:Neutral point of view. You need to state your objections based on those policies.

As far as Wikipedia is concerned both India and Pakistan claim the whole of the former princely state. There is no basis for us to honour one country's claims over the other. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:16, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Human rights abuses

Can we have a section of human right abuses in the article? Since it is occupied by Pakistan, it has to be inserted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.255.132.146 (talk) 21:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

INB discussion

Please see the discussion at the India wikiproject noticeboard aiming to craft standardised neutral ledes for some top-level Kashmir-related article, including possibly this one. Abecedare (talk) 18:59, 20 August 2019 (UTC)