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Source of arrack in Sri Lanka

I'm not an expert in this subject, but there seems to be some mistakes in this article that I would wish someone more knowledgeable would check. The toddy in Sri Lanka, and I believe similar brews in several other countries, is not usually made from coconut but from inflorescences of fishtail palms, Caryota. Indeed most gardens in Sri Lanka have a few Caryota in different stages of development for this purpose. Whether this toddy is used for distilling arrack, I'm not sure.

I have seen coconut arrack for sale in Sri Lanka, but I would seem to remember that is made from the coconut fruits, not a tapped inflorescence. I'm happy to be corrected here. 58.182.198.41 (talk) 08:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you need to be corrected here. They dragged Sri Lanka into the article in a naïve attempt to back their false claims of the drinks' origin. First, they have changed the spelling by adding a second "r".

Then they dropped grapes and morus, from which the drink is usually made, because they don't grow where they claim the drink originated. That's enough. Other people commenting here have already noticed the amount of nonsense in the article. Let it stay that way. Torschlauch (talk) 13:13, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please expand the article and add info about arrak in the middle east - israel, turkey, etc...

Home Brew in Indonesia

Some of the Arrak I came across while in Indonesia over the last couple of weeks was really strong stuff. I even got some of the local stuff which was more or less moonshine. The stuff I had was apparently based on rice. Even though it didn't taste all that good (somewhat bitter); for some reason I liked the stuff. Bdelisle (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replica article

Isn't this article about the exact same thing as Arak (drink) ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have different ingredients. FunkMonk (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Different ingredients, different flavor (Arak is anise flavored) and different color. So no, it appears to be a different drink with a similar sounding name. --nsaum75^{¡שיחת!‎} 03:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The name is exactly the same, though, the article states this. Difference in transliteraton doesn't really make it a different name, FunkMonk (talk) 08:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's just local variations of the same drink. They all ultimately come from Arabic: http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=arrack&allowed_in_frame=0 -iopq (talk) 05:44, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arrack (drink) → Arrack — Currently Arrack is a redirect to the Arak disambiguation page, even though this drink is the only entry spelled this way. We should also expand the hatnote to include a link to the disambig for confused spellers. JaGa^talk 19:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. There are no standards for how the other types of arrak (or places) are spelled in Latin, so they could potentially be spelled arrack too. FunkMonk (talk) 19:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hence the hatnote. (BTW this article was at Arrack until FunkMonk moved it a couple of weeks ago - I'm just looking to restore it.) --JaGa^talk 19:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Mhiji (talk) 18:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The hatnote suffices. — AjaxSmack 00:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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alak

in the Philippines it is called alak.. Merndirigma (talk) 16:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

separate page <-> areca

The book cited here as being the proof of some experts believing the name is derived from areca nut is some 180 years old. Whatever the state might have been back then, there is no reason to believe that today. The word for areca in no major language of South-East Asia is areca so the basis for that argument is void. Also, it is a known fact (proven, among other things, linguistically and directly through historical annals) that there has been a long standing contact between Arabic speaking nation(s) and Malayo-Polynesian speakers. Furthermore, the word (a/ai)ra(k/g) has become either universal or a specialised word for various alcoholic beverages (from fruit to rice to horse milk as a material for fermentation) all around Asia. There seems to be no reason to think this book brings any relevant information. The word areca either sounds similar or is derived from the word for the alcohol. Also, not in Sanskrit-related languages but in some Dravidian is the word for areca remotely resembling arak present.

Therefore I propose to leave out this nonsense and merge this article into the one about arak unless the reason to separate them is some native speaker's (of English, that is) idea that those concepts are completely and utterly unrelated which would of course be a reason to keep them as they are. A final note - how could a word kasivu become arak? --Muflon 83 (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Geography and product confusion

The lede states that arrack is produced in "the Middle East and Turkey", yet neither of these are covered in the main article, which talks mainly about South and SE Asia. For what it's worth, I for one have never seen such a drink in all my time living and travelling in Turkey. I'm wondering if the confusion arises from the Turkish 'national drink' Rakı, which also gets it name from the same Arabic word arak as does arrack, but is a completely different thing. (In fact, a passage in the article Arak (drink) pretty much suggests this.) Unless anyone has any objections, I will edit the lede to better reflect the rest of the article, including removing the reference to ME/Turkey. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling Inconsistency - Definitive New Source

Spelling: The article spells the key word in several different ways, including "arrack," evidently the common English spelling, "arak," perhaps the Indonesian spelling, which is explained in the article, and "arrak." While I tend to think that the standard English spelling is appropriate, I regret that I do not know how Wikipedia typically resolves such inconsistencies. Source: The Oxford Companion to Spirits and Cocktails (Oxford University Press, 2022), pp. 37–38; 240 [illustration of label]; ISBN 978-0-19-9311113-2. PlaysInPeoria (talk) 17:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]