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inaccurate Rank

The picture under unit 101 states that Sharon is a major, but he is in fact, a lieutenant colonel in the picture 2603:8001:6901:4E5:DD51:5322:71DD:E668 (talk) 02:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Birth name

Other Zionist luminaries have their European birth names listed at the top of the page, but Sharon/Schneiderman does not. One way or the other, this should be made congruous across all such articles. 184.146.13.20 (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming his surname was changed before he was born, so it is not included. For example Netanyahu and Gants do not have their true names mentioned, but their parents do, as well as early settlers who became politicians like Golda mabovitch, Szymon Perski, and David Grün The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 05:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was born Ariel Scheinerman (not Schneiderman). This is in multiple obituaries published on his death, and in several books. A good source is David Landau's biography "ARIK", where it is said that Ben-Gurion insisted on him changing his name. Landau does not say exactly when that was, but it was post-1948. Zero^talk 12:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Born in British mandated Palestine, Israel did not exist in 1928. 2603:9009:800:E455:1599:34F2:D52C:6D2 (talk) 03:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. nowhere in our article does it say he was born in Israel. Guessing you're looking at the Google preview box thing, that's something for them to address Cannolis (talk) 04:30, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note 77 and corresponding sentence should be removed.

There is a line at the end of the "Early political career, 1974-2001 / Legal findings" which incorrectly states "Prior to his assassination, he had "specifically stated that he did not plan to identify Sharon as being responsible for Sabra and Shatila.""

Looking at that article, which clearly is bias as well, it states that someone else said he said that, being the textbook definition of heresy yet being shown in this article as "fact".

The sentence should be removed or at least amended to correctly indicate that someone said that he said that, with zero evidence to support it.

It's also a double quote because the linked article in note 77 is actually a quote from "IMRA, January 27, 2002" which itself is not referenced on that page and I can't find any actual evidence of it. TheTruePhoenix (talk) 09:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Birth Name

As with all other prime ministers applicable, the "born name" should be given/added in the introduction section also with Ariel Sharon.

Example: "Ehud Barak (Hebrew: אֵהוּד בָּרָק [eˈhud baˈʁak] ^ⓘ; born Ehud Brog;.... "

Therefore the following addition should be done:

Ariel Sharon (Hebrew: אֲרִיאֵל שָׁרוֹן [aʁiˈ(ʔ)el ʃaˈʁon] ^ⓘ; born Ariel Scheinerman(n); also known ..... Penalica (talk) 13:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]