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Merge with Ya'ara

Since both these article are about the same location, they should be merged. Does this occur elsewhere on wikipedia, that the same location has two articles? Al Quds redirects to Jerusalem. Wikipedia is not a memorial!? Chesdovi (talk) 13:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, as explained by User:Huldra and myself at Amqa, these places have different histories and what you are proposing is WP:OR. It is common to split articles about places with different phases of settlement. See Gibeon and Al-Jib. To be clear, I oppose a merger in this case as well. Tiamut^talk 15:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is wise to merge. It is too complex and there are even more complex cases such as Gezer - Gezer, Israel - Abu Shusha...

Ceedjee (talk) 10:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ya'ara and Arab al-Samniyya are separated by 2 km. That makes them quite separate...The Israeli government built on Palestinian village land but not the villages...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 10:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnically cleansed

The section 1948 War has the phrase: "its inhabitants were completely ethnically cleansed". This usage is incorrect: people are not "ethnically cleansed," places are. "Ethnic cleansing" is a euphemism (of 1990s coinage) meaning the "forcible removal of an ethnic population." As listed on the Operation Hiram page), the fighting took place on Oct. 30-31, 1948. So what particularly happened to the inhabitants of Arab al-Samniyya on those dates, at the time the village was captured? Were they present when the buildings were demolished? Were there casualties? How exactly were the inhabitants removed, or had they left before the hostile forces attacked? What were the refugees' destinations? These factual details would provide an accurate and objective description of the fall of Arab al-Samniyya, thus determine the use of the term "ethnic cleansing" or otherwise. -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further note: the term "ethnic cleansing" is a journalistic usage, but possibly inappropriate language for an encyclopedia entry. -- Deborahjay (talk) 06:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

note: the term "ethnic cleansing" is a term used in Human rights law and so is suitable for an encyclopaedic entry....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 10:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dunums vs. dunam

I've reverted my edit to retain the original usage dunums for the plural of the land unit. The English Wikipedia page on dunam is titled according to the conventional, contemporary Hebrew-to English transliteration, but two mainstream (though not unabridged) English-languagedictionaries—Encarta and Merriam-Webster's Collegiate—don't show it accepted into English under either spelling. Suggestion: not to reword here pending outcome of further investigation. -- Deborahjay (talk) 06:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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