Talk:Anti-Polish sentiment

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Wrong citation

It is written in the article: ""acting Israeli foreign minister, Israel Katz said that Poles "collaborated with the Nazis" and "sucked anti-Semitism with their mothers' milk." ""

He did not say that. He mentioned former Israeli PM, Yizhak Shamir, whom father was murdered by Poles during the holocaust after asking for their help. It was Yitzhak Shamir who claimed they "mbibe anti-Semitism with their mother's milk", years, if not decades prior to Katz's mention. יובל מוזס (talk) 10:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just corrected it by adding the original statement. 23impartial (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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There is nothing written about Netherlands. I have some info to add for a Netherlands section in Today. :

In February 2012, Geert Wilders's Freedom Party launched a "hotline" to collect complaints about Poles and other Eastern Europeans. The website caused criticism from politicians for being "anti-Polish".[1] The Polish embassy in the Netherlands requested the Dutch government to shut down the website.[2]

A 2015 survey showed that 49% of new Polish arrivals in the Netherlands have had to deal with discrimination.[3] Galeeger (talk) 17:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 16:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Poles and other Eastern Europeans" And what does Poland have to do with Eastern Europe? I most often encounter the country in lists of countries in Central Europe, and in various comparisons with its Central European neighbor, Germany. Dimadick (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating a section for NL. I have another sentence that could be added, probably to the existing second sentence:

In a television survey conduced by broadcaster NCRV, under half of Poles in the Netherlands felt welcome, and 85% of Polish employees reported facing discrimination.[4]

Author Wil Willems, who published a book about the history of Poles in the Netherlands, commented that the Polish community had become the "new" Moroccans. "Now when you say 'Pool', you say collisions, drunkenness and competing self-employed."[5] Galeeger (talk) 01:38, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Polish sentiment among Polish people

There should be section of anti-Polish sentiment among Polish people, especially uneducated ones, but not only. Even foreigners in Poland are more respected by Poles than Poles themselves. Eurohunter (talk) 13:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Eastern Europeans'?

I am disturbed by the fact that the terms 'Eastern Europe' and 'Eastern Europeans' (the single most offensive adjective that can be used towards Polish people) is consistently used throughout an article meant to protectively portray Polish people as victims in the events of discrimination. I think putting Polish people (constituting a very highly developed, high-income nation that is a part of the general Western culture) in the same bag as Eastern Europeans is discriminatory in its own right.

I request that this issue be addressed, so the article itself does not carry anti-Polish undertones anymore. PRiCnE (talk) 19:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the term "mazurik"

This paragraph should be removed entirely, as "Mazur" (inhabitant of Mazury) and "mazurik" (colloquial expression for the word "thief") are phonetically similar but unrelated. The references provided are unhelpful. Dahl’s dictionary in its 1st Edition makes no connection to Poles. The 2nd Edition offers several possibilities, including "Mazur", dancers of the Mazurka and several others. The 3rd Edition drops the reference to dancers of the Mazurka and retains other versions. As soon as there are inconsistencies even for different editions of this dictionary, I believe that Dahl’s work does not seem to be a reliable source for the origin of this specific word. Modern dictionaries, such as Wiktionary, correctly cite the German word Mauser, meaning "thief" (мазурик) and don't mention Poles.

Furthermore, the mention of Putin is irrelevant in this context. Although the referenced article belonging to the Ukrainian Canadian Community website (now deleted but accessible through the Internet Archive) mentions Putin’s use of this single word in regard of then-Ukrainian President Yushchenko. Taken together, this does not support the argument that the word was used to refer to Poles.

Additional argument would be that Russian version of this webpage doesn't make connection between "mazurik" and "Mazur" in Russian language.

Lastly, it is unlikely that Poles would be associated with Mazurians only in other countries, given that only 3.8% of the Polish population resides in the Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship. This percentage is comparable to the proportion of Illinois' population relative to the entire U.S. (3.8%) or Wales' population relative to the U.K. (4.7%). Shapoklya78 (talk) 09:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]