Talk:Ancilla Dei
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Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Ancilla Dei → handmaid of God – seems to be "commonly used" enough in Google Books to pass WP:Article names/WP:UE. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:04, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. You are arguing against you own proposal? I get 714 post-1980 Google Books results for Ancilla Dei, 414 for handmaiden of God. I don't think one this is even a close call since a very high portion of the hits for "handmaiden of God" do not refer to this subject. Kauffner (talk) 12:38, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - okay, if Kauffner is cautious on this one, then I will have another look. But my understanding of "commonly used" was that it merely had to be commonly used, not most commonly used. It does seem somewhat generic though and frankly the fact that a few Roman graves had this written in Latin isn't that significant, we wouldn't expect the term handmaid of God to be written in German. Will see what others say but am still thinking its merely that the article is tilted to Latin by simply having started from a Latin inscription. Case of the title wagging the dog. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- The subject is the Medieval version of "R.I.P." To translated it as handmaiden of anything is just confusing the issue. It is originally from the Annunciation. It is given by Luke 1:38 as ecce ancilla Domini / "Behold the handmaid of the Lord". Dante has it as, Ecce ancilla Dei / "Behold the handmaid of God". (Purg. 10.44) Kauffner (talk) 16:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - okay, if Kauffner is cautious on this one, then I will have another look. But my understanding of "commonly used" was that it merely had to be commonly used, not most commonly used. It does seem somewhat generic though and frankly the fact that a few Roman graves had this written in Latin isn't that significant, we wouldn't expect the term handmaid of God to be written in German. Will see what others say but am still thinking its merely that the article is tilted to Latin by simply having started from a Latin inscription. Case of the title wagging the dog. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.